Posted on 11/18/2020 5:09:28 AM PST by blam
Two US long-range tactical bombers entered China’s air defence identification zone (ADIZ) on Tuesday in an apparent show of force, just as the Chinese navy was conducting a series of simultaneous massive drills. Aviation tracker Aircraft Spots reported that two US Air Force B-1B Lancer bombers left Andersen Air Force Base in Guam on Tuesday morning and entered China’s ADIZ over the East China Sea, after refuelling in flight during the mission.
US Air Force B-1B bomber. Photo: AP
Since the B1-B – which carries the biggest payload of any US bomber and – and is a departure from the fighter jets and spy planes the American forces have sent before on missions so close to the Chinese coast, the SCMP suggested that the US was sending a blunt warning to China.
Aircraft Spots said the US bombers flew very close to the northeast corner of Taiwan’s ADIZ and they would have entered the zone if they had continued on the same trajectory. Under international rules, aircraft flying over such zones should notify the relevant authorities before doing so. But the US and Japan do not recognize China’s claims over the area.
The bombers’ mission also coincided with massive Chinese naval drills conducted at the same time in the South China Sea, East China Sea and Bohai Sea. Military analysts quoted by SCMP said the exercises were a signal from China’s top brass that the People’s Liberation Army could conduct joint operations in different military theaters (all of which just happen to be in close proximity to Taiwan) at the same time.
The PLA drills were announced indirectly by China’s Maritime Safety Administration, which issued notices warning vessels to stay away from an area from the southern tip of the Yellow Sea to waters near Hainan
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Because they do it all the time, and have since the Soviet Union days.
The problem being is china says the whole South China Sea is their airspace.
I don’t think we would be pleased by Chinese bombers flying around our borders.
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Of course its true - this stuff happens all the time. You are missing the point - China claims way beyond accepted international borders, even claims other countries waters and airspace. And the planes were far out at sea, not along China’s physical borders, but flying inside an imaginary and arbitrary line.
Russian planes overfly the US every year, by the way, as our planes do theirs.
Or like Serbia, a country of 8 million, had 6 million march on the capital to end socialism there.
Once a country goes full socialist, there’s no getting rid of it short of a countrywide uprising - which may take generations to happen, meanwhile everyone lives in misery.
China’s so called air defense identification zone is closer to Taiwan and Japan than it is to China. It’s nowhere even close to China’s borders. China is instead trying to encroach on literally everyone else’s space in the region. So, yeah, it’s totally cool that we do this.
"Despite multiple upgrades, the veteran aircraft is still limited to its old-fashioned airframe. The bulky turboprop plane is not only very visible to various radars, but it also makes a lot of noise.
" “The Tu-95 is the ‘brightest’, it’s the noisiest among our planes. It’s so noisy with all its propellers and four engines that even an underwater hydroacoustic system, resting on the ocean bed and used to track submarines, hears the noise of a Tu-95 flying at a 10km altitude,” according to Lukashevich."
I'm reminded of the surprise from seismologists when they discovered the phantom squiggles on their charts were tornadoes touching down. I'm wondering if they can detect these bombers?
...ability to do anything is pretty darn limited.
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I’m an old white woman with no real money. I do what I can. I do not and have not worn a mask. I am in survival mode, prepped and treating every consumable like gold so I can delay giving any support to the remaining large retailers until/unless I must.
I can give whatever moral support I have to anyone being more active.
I can forward material I find to one of our local/regional talk show hosts who is widely followed. I have proof he used them.
I can patronize the businesses that do not comply and let them know that is why I am there.
I can put up a sign for Trump. I can cut every fascist thieving prog out of my life. I can donate small amounts to the defense fund.
I can gently educate the non-political people I know.
Maybe it’s not dramatic and heroic, but being part of the deplorables means the leaders have the influence brought by our massive presence.
I can keep myself informed and POSITIVE. I do what I can to stay healthy so as to avoid the testing and tracing. I have moved from my home of 45 years, which was overrun with progs. I visit often. I now live in a small house in the woods, literally. I keep my focus by assigning myself challenges (I am an artist/craftsperson)so I will have something to show for this lost time of house arrest.
Do what you can. Don’t concede. Don’t give up. That’s contagious poison.
1M in DC was a good start.
We are not yet fighting a regime with any power. We still have the power. We have to be the support that allows our leaders to keep that position.
I’m encouraged that the attempt to use ethnic/religious/racial/language differences here as a wedge, did not work. Trump pulled support from the assumed prog coalition.
I hope we avoid the cleansing and the 4 years of civil war. I use the writings of those Yugoslavians who survived as manuals for my own survival.
Thank you for your perseverance. I am old an much like you.
Most of us here are.
I go to The Donald.win to hear the younger folks. They are on fire. We had the best and we will die before experiencing the very worst. They are in their prime.
I pray for them to revolt and succeed.
We’ve been in a very slow moving civil war since 1960, and is now picking up steam as the left begins to capitalize on the lessons and methods that worked successfully in other places in this county - this election being their ‘crowning glory’ to date.
I use the life I’ve lived to survive - no manuals needed, trouble is no one listens when I tell them what’s coming - just too unthinkable/outrageous/”it can’t happen here”/innate naivety. I imagine that to be most of the problem stems from so many being ignorant of their own and world history.
...being ignorant of their own and world history.
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They are about to get an education, hard and fast.
Op sec rules, so I’m not going to list the steps I’m hearing about to resist. But they are there and Americans are making plans. Non-violent, so far, just for the record.
air sonar is best sonar.
it is so much lighter and more... ephemeral than water sonar.
Air sonar washes over you with a calming touch. Water sonar beats upon your senses with sonic hammers.
At our house, we use air sonar as our “table music” during family dinner time because it encourages friendly communication.
Ha. I suppose.
I read years ago that they were so loud because the propeller tips exceeded the speed of sound...little sonic booms?
By far, the prettiest aircraft ever built.
“I don’t think we would be pleased by Chinese bombers flying around our borders.”
They do not have that capability/range.
But the Russians do it all the time.
What is the issue?
The Russians used to Fly Tu-95 Bears into our air defense zones.
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