Posted on 11/18/2020 4:00:52 AM PST by RoosterRedux
“You do realize that you have to pre-pay for Medicare and that you then have to pay for Medicare Part B right?”
Right. That’s what the quotes were for. You pay for some aspects, but most of it is free.
Do you believe that because you pay some costs that you arent a socialist?
OK. But as a non-pathologically altruistic socialist, I will vote AGAINST any spending that I do not see a benefit to.
That means I will vote FOR any politician who promises (and DELIVERS) the abolition of welfare, or at least some measurable cut in the welfare state.
You will never find that politician, and if you do they will never be elected. Congress RUNS on welfare. It is its stock in trade.
So you are against people getting a refund on their taxes if any time has passed. Got it.
The “refund” is paid out of future tax receipts (and borrowing).
So not only is there a time limit on tax refunds but since they have already spent it I should not expect anything back.
Just admit you are a statist that believes that all money belongs to the government.
No dear, none of it is free.
You have to pay for all aspects.
Some of it is prepaid but still, you paid for it.
Do you believe that because you pay some costs that you arent a socialist?
Do you believe that because primary private insurance for people over 65 is against the law that such people should just go and die rather then use the government insurance they paid and continue to pay for?
Say, you wouldn't happen to have a brother named Rahm would you?
Democrats run on welfare. Republicans run on Social Security. If it comes to having to make a choice, a politician will sacrifice the constituency which doesn't habitually vote for him.
Congress runs on welfare. they dole it out in the form of loopholes, favoritism, nepotism, and overt and covert bribery schemes.
It’s more than just EBT cards.
I am currently talking about “means tested programs” for low-income people or certain “protected classes”. Period. We can get into “corporate welfare” as a separate issue.
As of 2011, the amount spent on means-tested (”poverty”) programs, spread out among 79 agencies (the better to hide the total amount), was only moderately smaller than the amount spent on Social Security and Medicare.
“The means-tested welfare system consists of 79 federal programs providing cash, food, housing, medical care, social services, training, and targeted education aid to poor and low-income Americans. Means-tested welfare programs differ from general government programs in two ways. First, they provide aid exclusively to persons (or communities) with low incomes; second, individuals do not need to earn eligibility for benefits through prior fiscal contributions. Means-tested welfare therefore does not include Social Security, Medicare, Unemployment Insurance, or worker’s compensation.
Although the public is aware that Social Security and Medicare are large, expensive programs, few are aware that for every $1.00 spent on these two program government spends 76 cents on assistance to the poor or means-tested welfare.”
This is kind of silly.
The People pay a lot of money to their various governments, and they expect (instead of fattening the usurers and throwing it away on the shiftless) that their governments will provide services that enhance their quality of life and serve their interests.
The Uniparty is dedicated to making sure they don’t get what they expect, that they will become enraged as a result, and that the Uniparty can then get them to direct that rage against each other (Rethuglicans, Demonrats) instead of where it belongs.
This was the money quote....
“....the U.S. has lacked a robust right-wing party. It could be argued that the Republican Party is the right, but their position on the right is simply relative to that of the Democrats. Across the political spectrum, Republicans are center-left at best. They could neither recognize nor roll back the socialist transformation in American society. If they were genuinely right, we would not be fighting socialism in the early 21st century.”
If we manage to get a second Trump term, one of the first things he should do, is move to consolidate the 79 federal "means tested" programs under one agency (laying off the resulting redundant bureaucrats). This would then make very visible how much "aid" the average welfare recipient is actually getting.
Then work on putting a ceiling on total aid, so that it is less than what working a minimum wage job would do, in order to provide an incentive to get a job.
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