Posted on 11/03/2020 9:28:14 AM PST by Kaslin
Before Joe Biden became the presidential pick for the Democratic Party in the 2020 election, many of his opponents weighed-in on whether or not they think the Electoral College should be replaced with a national popular vote in future presidential contests.
Here is a small sample of some of their responses:
Sen. Corey Booker (D-NJ): I believe very simply that, in presidential elections, the person with the most votes should be the president of the United States.
Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA): Every vote matters and thats why I have called for an end to the Electoral College in favor of the national popular vote movement.
Pete Buttigieg: We need a national popular vote. It would be reassuring from the perspective of believing that were a democracy.
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT): I believe that it is hard to defend the current system in which one candidate receives 3 million votes less than his opponent, but still becomes president I believe that we need to reexamine the concept of the electoral college.
Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA): I'm open to the discussion I mean, there's no question that the popular vote has been diminished in terms of making the final decision about who's the president of the United States and we need to deal with that.
As if several sitting senators and a key Biden surrogate (Buttigieg) wanting to abolish the Electoral College was not enough to cause fear among Americans who understand the value of the system that weve used to elect every president to date, consider this ominous fact: 89 percent of Democrats agree.
For comparison sake, according to the same Pew Research Poll, only 23 percent of Republicans favor a national popular vote.
It seems likely that Democrats are more against the Electoral College than ever before simply because it cost them the 2000 and 2016 elections. In 2000, Al Gore won the popular vote, yet was defeated in the Electoral College. The same scenario played out in 2016, when Hillary Clinton was victorious in the popular vote but also lost in the Electoral College.
It is easy to see why the Democrats are frustrated with the Electoral College system, but it is not as easy to see why the Electoral College is a brilliant, and misunderstood, system.
According toSen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), The desire to abolish the Electoral College is driven by the idea Democrats want rural America to go away politically.
In general, Graham is right. The Electoral College does give weight to rural voters, which is one of the many reasons the Founding Fathers included it as the mechanism to choose the president.
It also provides a voice in the national election of the president to the states, small states in particular.
As James Madison articulated in Federalist 39, the executive power will be derived from a very compound source. The immediate election of the President is to be made by the States in their political characters. The votes allotted to them are in a compound ratio, which considers them partly as distinct and coequal societies, partly as unequal members of the same society....From this aspect of the government it appears to be of a mixed character, presenting at least as many FEDERAL as NATIONAL features.
The Electoral College, despite misconception, also ensures that the United States does not devolve into a mobocracy. This sentiment was eloquently stated by Alexander Hamilton in many of his post-Constitutional Convention writings.
As Hamilton penned in Federalist 68, The choice of SEVERAL, to form an intermediate body of electors, will be much less apt to convulse the community with any extraordinary or violent movements, than the choice of ONE who was himself to be the final object of the public wishes. And as the electors, chosen in each State, are to assemble and vote in the State in which they are chosen, this detached and divided situation will expose them much less to heats and ferments, which might be communicated from them to the people, than if they were all to be convened at one time, in one place.
There are several more reasons that the Founding Fathers inserted the Electoral College into the Constitution as the instrument to elect the nations commander-in-chief.
However, no matter the fact that the present system is a bulwark against a mobocracy, in which large states and urban centers determine the presidential election, Democrats oppose it because it has stifled them from controlling the White House in a few recent elections.
One would hope that the Democratic party would not want to tear down the system for choosing the president, which has been in place for more than two centuries, simply because they have been defeated in two recent elections. However, as their own words demonstrate, this is not the case.
And as soon as their candidate loses the “popular” vote, they will cry and scream that it shouldn’t be that way.
(No, I’m NOT saying that happens today....)
Democrats want us to be The United States of California and New York.
They can change the constitution, legally.
Enough of this light Coup B$!
Exactly....they just want NY and California to determine who is President.....NOT going to happen.
Democrats want us to be The United States of California and New York.
Without the electoral college we would be.
The founders were remarkably wise.
The rural states feed and fuel the urban states. If the EC goes away expect some,if not all of those states to consider leaving the union and forming their own country.
The clue is in the country’s name - the United STATES of America. STATES being the key word.
They want ballot box stuffing in Democrat-controlled big states to be able to dictate the Presidency to the rest of the country.
Tough Luck. We are The United States.
The EC is a limit on absolute and centralized power. Its quite simple.
our founders were extremely wise.
Popular vote equals MOB rule. Good luck getting an Amendment to the Constitution doing away with the Electoral College, because that is what it would take.
I wouldn't send Hillary or Kamala or Bernie to the store for milk, with a note. I don't think Hillary would have made it through a program in engineering, or science, or medicine, but law school (which has intellectual demands which can be circumvented by being political and being an accomplished bs’er) was perfect for her.
Without it this republic wouldnt exist.
They ever get rid of it the city slickers had better stay in the city, because they wont ever be safe in the rural areas.
What Politics needs most is less politicians.
So does our governmental structure with the Senate (the senior branch) being composed of two senators from each state.
This was probably the greatest creation in the Constitution. We can see how effective it is/was just by looking at the populations of NY and Ca.
The Electoral College is the firewall that protects us from massive vote fraud in the big blue states, particularly by illegal aliens who have no business voting in our elections.
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