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It's Do or Die for the Polls
SHARYL ATTKISSON .com ^ | NOVEMBER 2, 2020 | SHARYL ATTKISSON

Posted on 11/03/2020 8:46:17 AM PST by Hojczyk

The following is a news analysis.

We all know that a lot is at stake for each side depending upon the outcome of the 2020 election.

But this is a key event for something that is even larger than one campaign: the polls and pundits.

The narrative after 2016 was that the polls were actually accurate; they just picked the wrong winner. The truth is, most people understand that the way the polls were reported in 2016, they were used as narratives to try to give the appearance that— as many experts incorrectly claimed— Trump could never win. Obviously, the opposite was true.

There was already simmering mistrust of polls after past big misses. It would seem 2020 will be make or break for the polls and pundits.

If Biden defeats Trump, it could well be that some measure of self-correction was done by those crunching and reporting on polls. That could begin a restoration of confidence in the polling system, although many will likely remain circumspect until more proof of accurate polling is in the rear view mirror.

If, on the other hand, Trump wins, it will be impossible for many people to any longer trust in the system of polling and pundits we’ve relied upon for so long. If that happens, those responsible will be forced to evaluate and do a wholesale renovation of their industry if they hope to have any meaningful relevance in the near future.

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1 posted on 11/03/2020 8:46:17 AM PST by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk
Sometimes the simplest explanation is the correct one.

The MSM (who commission the polls) have a desired outcome of Trump not winning. The pollsters then manipulate their polls to achieve the desired outcome for their clients - who are paying them big money.

2 posted on 11/03/2020 8:50:17 AM PST by SamAdams76 (Orange Man GOOD!)
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To: Hojczyk

Been waiting for this analysis. We have a chance here to destroy a major leftist tool in their toolbox.


3 posted on 11/03/2020 8:50:35 AM PST by samadams2000 (Get your houses in order.)
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To: Hojczyk

“any meaningful relevance in the near future.”

Too late for that, no one trusts or believes them.
They blew it


4 posted on 11/03/2020 8:52:07 AM PST by Bell Bouy II
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To: Hojczyk

With polls, it’s garbage in, garbage out. Most people I know don’t answer any number that they don’t recognize and they won’t give Mr. Spam Risk the time of day. If pollsters can’t figure out a statistically accurate way to get their information in the 21st century, then they are useless at predicting anything. They scoff at crowd size at rallies, but that data is far more accurate than their own.


5 posted on 11/03/2020 8:54:18 AM PST by jimmygrace
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To: samadams2000

The polls will certainly be wrong but it will not deter the left from continuing to use them in the future to suppress voters or create a false campaign narrative.

When FoxNews, e.g., has a poll makeup of only 5% independents in all of its samples when there will clearly be over 30% independents voting the system has been totally corrupted by those jamokes.


6 posted on 11/03/2020 8:54:41 AM PST by Navin Johnson
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To: Hojczyk

Another problem with polls is me. I always poll for democrats and vote for republicans


7 posted on 11/03/2020 8:57:13 AM PST by Lee25
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To: Hojczyk

When a Democrat wins, the polls are right.

When a Republican wins, the polls are wrong.

They’re not going away and they’re not going to change.


8 posted on 11/03/2020 9:04:52 AM PST by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrats' John Dean])
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To: Hojczyk

“Trump wins, it will be impossible for many people to any longer trust in the system of polling and pundits we’ve relied upon for so long. If that happens, those responsible will be forced to evaluate and do a wholesale renovation of their industry if they hope to have any meaningful relevance in the near future.”

Then, the Trolls, who are paid to post the B$ polling data will be out of a job.

If the ChiComs financed the Trolls, they might want their money back in interest.


9 posted on 11/03/2020 9:28:47 AM PST by Grampa Dave (I would rather be killed by Covid than by Loneliness, at the end of my life! I'll be 82 in November!)
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To: Grampa Dave

“ Then, the Trolls, who are paid to post the B$ polling data will be out of a job.”

They should be out of a job, but the way things have evolved, I’m not so sure. All media has moved toward becoming fully partisan, propaganda media, and similarly all polling has trended toward gaslighting suppression propaganda.

Propaganda has taken over and as long as partisans are enticed by the lure of gaslighting, it’s going to keep on keeping on.


10 posted on 11/03/2020 9:33:13 AM PST by Scott from the Left Coast (Make Orwell Fiction Again)
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To: Hojczyk

There is definitely a political shift taking place in this country; blue collar democrats are becoming Republicans, suburban women are becoming democrat Karens. Cracks are appearing in the black democrat monolith. I don’t think the pollsters have accounted for the shift in their modeling.


11 posted on 11/03/2020 9:40:39 AM PST by henkster ("We can always fool the foreigner" - Chinese Proverb)
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To: Navin Johnson

Fox News pounding the Real Poltics Biden Up 7 is the most egregious example.


12 posted on 11/03/2020 9:43:03 AM PST by samadams2000 (Get your houses in order.)
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To: Hojczyk

Dear Sharyl,
You’re at least a decade late for many of us. I for one, gave up on the wicked, mendacious “polls” 10+ years ago....and I was hanging fire another 10 years before that; until I finally said: TO BLAZES with all of them!


13 posted on 11/03/2020 10:41:45 AM PST by Tucker39 ("It is impossible so to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible." George Washington)
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To: Hojczyk

Wish this would silence Luntz and other turncoats.


14 posted on 11/03/2020 11:09:40 AM PST by MHT
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
Truthful analysis re the gas lightening mediots:

They should be out of a job, but the way things have evolved, I’m not so sure. All media has moved toward becoming fully partisan, propaganda media, and similarly all polling has trended toward gaslighting suppression propaganda.

Propaganda has taken over and as long as partisans are enticed by the lure of gaslighting, it’s going to keep on keeping on.

15 posted on 11/03/2020 12:01:50 PM PST by Grampa Dave (I would rather be killed by Covid than by Loneliness, at the end of my life! I'll be 82 in November!)
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To: samadams2000

“Been waiting for this analysis. We have a chance here to destroy a major leftist tool in their toolbox.”

It will probably take a couple of more national elections for them to destroy them selves totally.


16 posted on 11/03/2020 12:05:03 PM PST by Grampa Dave (I would rather be killed by Covid than by Loneliness, at the end of my life! I'll be 82 in November!)
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To: Hojczyk

later


17 posted on 11/03/2020 4:21:31 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (BLM Stands For "Bidens Loot Millions"!)
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