Posted on 11/02/2020 10:22:02 AM PST by John W
COEUR d’ALENE, Idaho — The congregation of Candlelight Christian Fellowship gathered around tables sipping coffee and grapple with theological questions.
With a potluck dinner, no masks and plenty of shared hugs, the night felt like a throwback to the pre-pandemic era except for a noticeable exception on the stage: The lead pastor, Paul Van Noy, was addressing the congregation with the aid of supplemental oxygen, piped into his nostrils from a small tank.
About a month ago, Van Noy, 60, was discharged from a hospital in a wheelchair after a COVID-19 infection brought him to the brink of death. But while that scare ravaged his lungs and rattled the church, it has done little to alter the growing sentiment among many people in northern Idaho that the coronavirus cannot be stopped and efforts to contain it are doing more harm than good.
“I think we just open up and we just let it take its course,” said Nancy Hillberg, 68, as church members mingled after the service. “Just let it be done.”
Amid a record spike of coronavirus cases and the final days of the presidential election, President Donald Trump and his administration have expressed increasing helplessness at containing the virus, focusing instead on improvements in survivability and trying to hold the economy together. While it is a theme welcomed by many of the president’s supporters, it has proved alarming to health officials who are encountering rising resistance to their calls for unity in combating a pandemic that has already claimed nearly 230,000 Americans and threatens to take many more.
Governors around the country, particularly Republican ones, are following the president’s lead in resisting new restrictions against a virus that has powerfully persisted despite lockdowns in some areas over the spring and summer.
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Pity those who mask and cower out of fear; condemn those who promote fear as a virtue (Dennis Prager paraphrase)
This is indeed what to do.
Leave it alone. Let it take its course. Prevent. Protect some seniors and immune compromised but even most of them can have immune prevention.
Vitamins, minerals, less sugars and unnatural foods. Sleep. Less stress than usual, even 10% less would be good. (One example: stressful jobs should actually have more time off.)
How is that a plus?
It does attack the central nervous system and cross the blood-brain barrier. There can be long lasting neurological effects. The nature of these effects, their duration, and the fraction of infected people who suffer brain problems is not known.
It does attack the central nervous system and cross the blood-brain barrier. There can be long lasting neurological effects. The nature of these effects, their duration, and the fraction of infected people who suffer brain problems is not known.
It’s not a plus or a minus. It is just another cold/flu. We’ve dealt with those pandemics for centuries. This is really just the flu-de-jure. And the good news is, it is VERY low risk to the young and healthy, kinda like heart disease, Pneumonia and all the other things that kill us old people.
We need to consider how many people were in such fragile health that they would have likely died whether they contracted the Wuhan virus or just the usual flu.
The absolute tragedy, the true crime against humanity, was that family members were not allowed to be with them as they passed, they were forced to die alone with nurses in hazmats suits like space aliens. THAT IS AGAINST ALL LOVE FOR HUMANITY and a great disrespect to them and their children.
There is so much we don’t know. About so many things. But my take is that if you have not yet gotten this virus, you will. The question is, how will it affect you?
Then again, there are so many things that could affect you permanently or kill you. Just to mention one, though it’s risky, I still take a shower every day. :)
That is heart wrenching. That never should have happened and should not continue to happen.
Out of curiosity, did you get tested? Was it covered by insurance, or did you end up shelling out?
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I did - it was positive. Everybody became symptomatic after that. 16 year old son did to get cleared for athletics - he was positive. Wife and I re-tested. Results were “inconclusive” (likely meaning we were well on the way to recovery).
We had surge testing, so it was free. I would not have paid for testing - we would have just assumed we were positive and hunkered down for the duration.
And yet it continues to happen.
Once they get to the other side, all people passing away no doubt understand all truths, including as to why their loving family was not by their sides. But the children are wracked with guilt - maybe forever - because they were not there. They wanted to be there. They could have been there. But they were forbidden out of A FOOLISH FEAR THAT THEY MIGHT CATCH A VIRUS. The fear is foolish because anyone who loves their parent would risk the germs of a hospital (not only covid) to be there to say a last goodbye.
That was taken from them.
Yep, everybody will get it. There are multiple strains now and more coming. The vaccine will be as effective as the influenza vaccine — 20% to 45%. It may knock down the severity of your case, just like the influenza vaccine. But everybody will get it.
[I did - it was positive. Everybody became symptomatic after that. 16 year old son did to get cleared for athletics - he was positive. Wife and I re-tested. Results were “inconclusive” (likely meaning we were well on the way to recovery).
We had surge testing, so it was free. I would not have paid for testing - we would have just assumed we were positive and hunkered down for the duration.]
And I’ll never take this vaccine, just as I’ve never had a flu shot.
The average 82 year old man is not "about to die". In fact, on average, an 80 year old male lives for over 7 more years. An 83 year old will on average live another 6 years. Those are just averages. Some 80 year olds are at deaths door, while others will live well into their 90's. We shouldn't dismiss all the victims as "about to die anyway", as most probably had much more life to live. An 82 year old dying isn't as sad as the death of a young person, but for a husband, wife, son or daughter, it's still a major loss.
“Some”? Fauci has been saying for months you can’t stop it, you can only mitigate it, until you have widespread use of a vaccine.
Once it was clear China had already exported the virus to multiple countries, and that it was breaking out in multiple states and multiple locations throughout the world, it was clearly too late to isolate it and kill it off.
I’m not sure China actually ever stopped it, but if they did, it was because they literally sealed people to die in their houses, and then cremated the bodies and did not count them.
That is terrible-lo siento mucho-that should never, ever be allowed to happen again to any person or their family-heads should roll...
Amen.
It doesn’t matter how many cases but rather do we have a cure to treat it and do have a vaccine to prevent it’s spread.
Biden ( and most dims really) knows how to stop it..but he waiting until after he is elected to fix it.
Just like they know how to fix the economy ...the environment ...and China.
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