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5 Big Questions Over SpaceX Declaring Martian Independence
The Federalist ^ | October 31, 2020 | Jonah Gottschalk

Posted on 10/31/2020 10:24:49 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: cuban leaf

I worry that we will be committing physical and cultural genocide against the Martians. We will take their indigenous culture and replace it with McDonald’s fly-throughs.

Will we never learn?!?!?


21 posted on 10/31/2020 10:52:29 AM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: monkeyshine

into asteroids in the asteroid belt itself and simply shoot them back to Mars or to Earth to splash in the ocean

That said, Mars doesn’t need troops once it can move asteroids - they can just as easily send a water composition asteroid to splash in the ocean as a nickle-iron one to splash on any continent on any target.


22 posted on 10/31/2020 10:52:55 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Vermont Lt

Lunar customs should be OK as long as no one smuggles unubtanium


23 posted on 10/31/2020 10:54:41 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Kaslin

Your planet, if you can keep it.


24 posted on 10/31/2020 11:00:12 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Follow your Inner Trump)
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To: Carl Vehse

For example Mars gravity is 38% of what earth’s is. Then there’s the increase in high energy particles, cosmic rays, that our atmosphere filters out or back that Mars’s much thinner atmosphere won’t. People living working, giving birth, raising children there isn’t going to be the walk in the park SciFi likes to portray.


25 posted on 10/31/2020 11:01:20 AM PDT by Reily
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To: Kaslin
Will Elon Musk need US subsidies and tax breaks to make his Martian success story happen? Or will this be self-financed?

The tariff rate will also have to be factored into any discussion about Martian independence.

26 posted on 10/31/2020 11:01:37 AM PDT by Bernard (No tag today. Maybe tomorrow.)
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To: Kaslin

For a good overview of private property in space, read this:

https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/seven-countries-join-the-u-s-in-signing-the-artemis-accords/

“ NASA announced yesterday that seven countries — the United Kingdom, Australia, Canada, Japan, Luxembourg, the United Arab Emirates and Italy — have now signed the Artemis Accords, the Trump administration’s effort to create a legal framework that will protect property rights in space and get around the legal limitations imposed by the Outer Space Treaty.”

Other articles on that can be found here:

https://behindtheblack.com/?s=Private+property+in+space

Particularly this one:

https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/the-artemis-accords-the-trump-administrations-effort-to-bypass-the-outer-space-treaty/


27 posted on 10/31/2020 11:06:29 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals.")
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To: Kaslin

I suppose private companies, governments, the U.N. etc. can make all the laws/rules/claims/whatever. But the result will be the same that it has always been throughout human history. Mars will belong to whoever (whomever?) can seize it and keep it.


28 posted on 10/31/2020 11:08:33 AM PDT by sageburn
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To: Kaslin

Fine. Then I am declaring myself God-emperor of Europa.


29 posted on 10/31/2020 11:09:37 AM PDT by I-ambush (Got arrested for inciting a peaceful riot)
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To: Kaslin

So Mars commerce will be in natural materials, heavy in mass?


30 posted on 10/31/2020 11:12:19 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Kaslin

Yadda Yadda Yadda...

He can carry on all he wants. But the long arm of the fed can regulate the behavior of a US citizen and especially a US based corporation in any jurisdiction it so chooses. It doesn’t matter if he recognizes it or not just ask the pirates of old.

Every government has but one law. Obey or be forcibly arrested or worse.

If Musk keeps it up he will soon say “Now we see the violence inherent in the system!”.


31 posted on 10/31/2020 11:13:08 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: Kaslin

Mars Is A Harsh Mistress.


32 posted on 10/31/2020 11:15:05 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The NYT commits acts of violence with their words.)
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To: Vermont Lt
Meanwhile, the true visionaries are already investing in

TRUMP
INTERPLANETARY HOTEL AND TOWER
MARS

33 posted on 10/31/2020 11:16:01 AM PDT by Ezekiel (The pun is mightier than the s-word. Goy to the World!)
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To: Kaslin

Elon Musk has gone Crazy Eddie!


34 posted on 10/31/2020 11:16:04 AM PDT by buckalfa
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To: monkeyshine

We now know there is a lot of water ice on Mars, and getting into orbit from Mars due to its lower gravity and thin atmosphere would be much, much easier than from Earth, and it’s much closer to the asteroid belt. So with a ready source of power (fission? fusion?) it’s quite conceivable that Mars would become the primary space hub.


35 posted on 10/31/2020 11:17:38 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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To: Kaslin

You only own it if you’re willing and able to defend it.


36 posted on 10/31/2020 11:18:48 AM PDT by motherdearth ("Mercy Without Justice Is the Mother of Dissolution; Justice Without Mercy Is Cruelty")
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To: calenel

Statehood for Mars! And the Moon!

I’m willing to go.

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Trust me. You won’t like it here.


37 posted on 10/31/2020 11:20:30 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Born after V.E. day but before V.J. day but I did co pilot the Enola Gay.)
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To: Kaslin

Once the Martian Congressional Republic declares independence and builds its fleet the Earth will have no say anymore.


38 posted on 10/31/2020 11:21:26 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Kaslin

This is exactly why Sheila Jackson Lee had NASA astronauts place an American flag on Mars. It’s a done deal.


39 posted on 10/31/2020 11:23:20 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Graybeard58

Why? You got your Biden lawn signs out?


40 posted on 10/31/2020 11:23:54 AM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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