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Townhall ^ | 10/30/2020 | Larry O'Connor

Posted on 10/30/2020 7:07:37 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 10/30/2020 7:07:37 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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I don't know why this author and so many other commentators place any faith in the RCP numbers. These numbers are based mostly on media-driven biased polls designed to inflate Democrat party strength.

On top of that, why is there an infatuation with RCP? Anyone with basic math skills can do what they do. I see nothing magical about them whatsoever.

What I am hoping for is a Trump blowout win next Tuesday. You would think that would expose RCP for the phony operation it is and send them the way of the extinct Dodo Bird.

I thought that would happen four years ago but they are still around, more powerful than ever.
2 posted on 10/30/2020 7:14:39 AM PDT by Dan in Wichita
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To: SeekAndFind

I think both candidates have a pretty solid 250 EV’s. Those middle 30ish votes is going to determine it.


3 posted on 10/30/2020 7:25:18 AM PDT by skinndogNN
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To: Dan in Wichita

“On top of that, why is there an infatuation with RCP? Anyone with basic math skills can do what they do. I see nothing magical about them whatsoever.”

Exactly! They mix some fairly average polls with a bunch of wild-assed crap polls making them worthless.

It’s like buying a steak dinner in 5 star restaurant and then having a bus-boy spit on it at the table. Any value it had is lost.


4 posted on 10/30/2020 7:26:28 AM PDT by Beagle8U ("Chris Wallace comes from the shallow end of the press pool.")
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To: SeekAndFind

This might be a good time to admit publicly that I was wrong!

I predicted a year ago that Biden would NOT be the Democrats nominee, I could not have been more wrong.

I still don’t understand why the boys in the back room choose Biden to represent them. If it was to get a woman in the White House, why pick Harris as his running mate. Almost any woman would have been a better choice and might have actually helped the ticket, but Harris? Why, just why.

So once again, I was wrong.


5 posted on 10/30/2020 7:28:36 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
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Biden is driving to 200 not 270. The next 100 hours for him will be horrible.


6 posted on 10/30/2020 7:37:43 AM PDT by Kozy (new age haruspex; "Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth.")
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RCP should be asked to account for their polling after the election.

"Did you include the wild one from ABC on Wisconsin in your averages?
You did?
You actually considered that?
Enuf said.
Next!"
7 posted on 10/30/2020 7:39:19 AM PDT by EliRoom8
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He hates (and I do mean HATEs) “...the trend of journalists, analysts, and commentators rushing to the closest television camera or website to make their Nostradamus-like forecast of what is going to happen on Election Day.”

He then goes on to prove himself a liar.


8 posted on 10/30/2020 7:39:21 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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but Harris? Why, just why.

Obama, she's part of the Obama/Jarret commie machine. Obama will be maestro. (having another term).

9 posted on 10/30/2020 7:42:49 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: Dan in Wichita

On top of that, why is there an infatuation with RCP? Anyone with basic math skills can do what they do. I see nothing magical about them whatsoever.

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Average of averages with different methods. A fools gold

Faux with their map up with various commentators playing what ifs.

Only going to get worse as they play on emotions.

Tuesday we shall see if common sense prevails or hysteria and media manipulation have emerged victorious.


10 posted on 10/30/2020 7:44:06 AM PDT by patriotspride (Third generation Vet. Never forget the true cost of freedom)
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I’m with you. I’ve never understood Biden and I barely understand Harris. Had they chose Tulsi Gabbard, everything about this election would be different.


11 posted on 10/30/2020 7:46:05 AM PDT by Outlaw76 (Free Men don't ask permission.)
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To: EliRoom8

Any poll that is off more than 2 points should be forced out of business for the next election.

And that means network polls too. That would put a stop to all the phony suppression polls.


12 posted on 10/30/2020 7:48:59 AM PDT by Beagle8U ("Chris Wallace comes from the shallow end of the press pool.")
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To: CIB-173RDABN

The boys in the back room didn’t choose him?


13 posted on 10/30/2020 7:51:35 AM PDT by stanne
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To: SeekAndFind

China has bought and is buying our politicians and business leaders with our own money and the empty promis of 1.3 billion customers.


14 posted on 10/30/2020 7:59:08 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Dan in Wichita

Any average is only as useful as the individual numbers being averaged. Garbage in means garbage out. So I have never thought the RCP thing made any sense.


15 posted on 10/30/2020 8:03:24 AM PDT by Avalon Memories (Fight the Left - the communists - not our own.)
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The UK-Based, formerly (1980s) factual Economist Magazine has, as of this AM, an unmoved 95% Biden chance of winning with 350EVs. I'm looking forward to mocking them to death.

Nate Silver's 538 site is a little less impossible with a current base of Biden at 89% with 346 EVs. However the chart there on the 538 site allows one to manipulate swing state wins for either candidate and then the site computes what else would change from the selection. This morning, having read the above, I punched in FL alone to see and Biden drops to 70% and 285EVs. Add NC and poor Joe still has a 58% wining chance but(?) only 269EVs, tied with Donald!

So with the above, on the 538 site, if I click just one of the mentioned 'available' states of Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania or Minnesota, Trump wins 270+EVs as all of the expected 'R' states turn automatically red! With Michigan clicked alone, he beats 2016 with 309 EVs! Here is praying!

16 posted on 10/30/2020 8:06:15 AM PDT by SES1066 (2020, VOTE your principles, VOTE your history, VOTE FOR ALL AMERICANS, VOTE colorblind!)
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The reason is the money pulling the strings. To put it a little crudely, oligarchs gonna oligarchs.


17 posted on 10/30/2020 8:06:37 AM PDT by Avalon Memories (Fight the Left - the communists - not our own.)
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To: Dan in Wichita

The part that RCP bungles is uncertainty. If they are to treat all these disparate polls as valid data, then that means that the actual range of uncertainty is GREATER THAN the span between the lowest and highest individual polls in that calculation.

That makes it garbage. Any monkey could say that the results will fall somewhere within a dozen point range. It adds no value to anyone’s life.


18 posted on 10/30/2020 8:14:11 AM PDT by Go_Raiders (The fact is, we really don't know anything. It's all guesswork and rationalization.)
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To: Dan in Wichita
An average of bad averages is....a bad average.

On average.

19 posted on 10/30/2020 8:28:20 AM PDT by Arones (When Leftists are in a minority, then they look for other ways to win.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I am predicting ~320 EV for Trump this time around.


20 posted on 10/30/2020 8:32:15 AM PDT by thoughtomator
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