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7 bodies, nothing stolen: Were killings at California marijuana grow 'a message'?
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | Oct. 29, 2020 | Matthew Ormseth and Stephanie Lai

Posted on 10/29/2020 1:12:50 PM PDT by artichokegrower

The boy knew how his mother made a living. He also knew the danger inherent in it.

As recently as two months ago, he had stayed at a property in Aguanga, a small community in rural Riverside County, where his mother, helped by recent immigrants from Laos, grew marijuana.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: california; cannabis; crime; drugs; localnews; marijuana; pot; wod
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Shannon divided the region’s illegal marijuana cultivators into three loose groups, each with a distinct modus operandi. Chinese nationals, he said, have set up sophisticated grows within suburban rental homes. They typically divert electricity before it reaches the meter and use it to power high-wattage grow lights and irrigation systems, he said.

They will grow inside a rental home for a few years, then abandon it. By that time, Shannon said, the house is all but ruined by the humidity, which breeds mold, and the reek of marijuana, which seeps into the drywall.

Mexican drug trafficking groups, Shannon said, oversee the largest cultivation sites in the Inland Empire — fields that are carved out of public forest land, tended by low-paid laborers, irrigated with water siphoned from public sources and doused in illegal pesticides that can poison groundwater. A bonus of growing marijuana on public land, he added, is that if the operators are prosecuted and their property subject to forfeiture, the government cannot seize the land because it already owns it.

The third group in the Inland Empire are Laotian growers, Shannon said. Concentrated in the Anza Valley, they typically raise their crop in plywood sheds and grow houses erected on private land.


Welcome to the sanctuary state of California

1 posted on 10/29/2020 1:12:50 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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Pot....the victimless crime.....riiiight


2 posted on 10/29/2020 1:14:24 PM PDT by V_TWIN (Where's Hunter???)
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The victims — who, according to Chankhamany’s son, were mostly new immigrants from Laos — have little if any paper trail. No property records, court cases or other public documents that might offer insight into their lives or leads to relatives who could.

Just doing the jobs American drug dealers don’t want to do.

3 posted on 10/29/2020 1:18:06 PM PDT by PGR88
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Lie down with dogs ...


4 posted on 10/29/2020 1:18:20 PM PDT by DarrellZero
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And dems want to decriminalize ALL drugs???????


5 posted on 10/29/2020 1:19:12 PM PDT by Hambone 1934 (WE all know President)
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6 posted on 10/29/2020 1:20:29 PM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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As recently as two months ago, he had stayed at a property in Aguanga, a small community in rural Riverside County, where his mother, helped by recent illegal immigrants from Laos, grew marijuana.


7 posted on 10/29/2020 1:21:12 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (I would rather be killed by Covid than by Loneliness, at the end of my life! I'll be 82 in November!)
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Yeah, decriminalize drugs and CRIMINALIZE guns.....that makes a lot of sense.


8 posted on 10/29/2020 1:32:30 PM PDT by V_TWIN (Where's Hunter???)
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My FIL lived in Aguanga..for a time.


9 posted on 10/29/2020 1:36:27 PM PDT by Osage Orange (TRUMP!!!)
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If they stayed in Laos, they would be alive today.


10 posted on 10/29/2020 1:41:53 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Mocking Liberals is not only a right, but the duty of all Americans.)
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Yes. If it was legal these dangerous illegal growing places wouldn't exist.

I was in the USAF at a time when I was one of the few who wasn't a pothead.

Other than the smell, I never saw it have adverse effects on anyone except getting the munchies and forgetting things.

It mellowed out some folks who became very violent when drinking alcohol.

I am overall, very conservative, which is one reason why I am so much for legalization.

I am sick and tired of our tax money being wasted investigating, prosecuting and jailing potheads.

Conservatives are supposed to be for freedom and limited government.

Here's a chance to prove it.

11 posted on 10/29/2020 1:43:04 PM PDT by Mogger
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“Dreamers” grown up is my diagnosis.


12 posted on 10/29/2020 1:43:10 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (BLM Stands For "Bidens Loot Millions"!)
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But if they just legalize and tax it all the problems will go away.. Oh Wait.

In a sane country the Army would clean up these lawless groups.

Poisoning our people and the land, and just think of how much CO2 these operations are causing.

13 posted on 10/29/2020 1:44:22 PM PDT by desertfreedom765
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Obviously not part of the festivities in Laos when Vang Pao was trying to hold back the Communist hordes, or they would have been prepared with copious weapons and ammo.


14 posted on 10/29/2020 1:46:33 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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Well Duh .... it is legal and the illegal places and crime still exist.


15 posted on 10/29/2020 1:47:44 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Corrupt Slow Joe Biden is the Bolshevik sock puppet.)
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Welcome to the sanctuary state of California!

This stuff has been going on for at least 40 years in N. California.

3+ decades ago, I belonged a hunting and fishing club in N. California. Our sons were still in high school, and I lucked out and got deer hunting reservations at a premium ranch just off/on hiway 1 south of Gualala.

I went up ahead of my sons on a Friday before opening season to stake out our tents. They were to join me that evening. I
pulled into the parking lot/checkin stand by the owner’s barn.

He was in the middle of deputies from 2 counties and what appeared to be National Guard guys in battle gear. The rancher/owner came over to talk to me. I started to get out, and he told me to stay in as I would be leaving.

Then, I hear fully auto rifle shots being fired about a mile or so away. He said, there was a pot war going on that was out of hand. He told me to leave for my safety.

I explained that my sons would be driving up after school. This was before Cell Phones. He got their names and the high school they would be at and my wife’s work number. His wife made contact and our sons just came home.

Apparently, there were Chicoms, Russian and Mexican gangs in basically full metal battle over MJ fields and the pot harvest.

This never made the newspapers and the ranchers never talked about it.


16 posted on 10/29/2020 1:48:33 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (I would rather be killed by Covid than by Loneliness, at the end of my life! I'll be 82 in November!)
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My wife and I were talking to a Colorado State Park Ranger. He told us the story of how his friend, who owned a dispensary near the Durango area, was murdered by the Mexican Cartel. According to the park ranger, the cartel members came into his dispensary, said, “close down” — he didn’t and he was suddenly dead.


17 posted on 10/29/2020 1:50:29 PM PDT by Londo Molari
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The growers who were killed were all from Laos. Who knows who the killers were, but I bet they were also from out of the country.

Diversity. Isn’t it wonderful?


18 posted on 10/29/2020 1:50:36 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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Sounds like Laotian organized crime dispute

If one reads the article.....a freeper non tradition

One will read the mom had cut off some former Laotian biz partners

Kali has truly huge grows some legal some non permitted

I haven’t seen violence personally there and I’d say I’m pretty experienced

25 years ago Humboldt and Trinity counties had violence towards robbers and we have heard of Mexican gangs infiltrating but I’ve never seen anything like this one

I’ve witnessed grows in Carpenteria and downtown LA that dwarf this one

1500-3000 gavida double ended lights or 120 acre green house under roof light dep ops

Tons per pull

This was something Laos OC related

And nobody will talk

They are like Albanians or Chechnyans

You don’t cooperate


19 posted on 10/29/2020 1:54:48 PM PDT by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you run the tra)
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My buddy was a “cleaner” at a grow in Humbolt a few years ago. They went to visit a neighbor grow operation and everyone in the house was dead. They beat feet and not a word was said, total news blackout. He decided VT was much safer.


20 posted on 10/29/2020 2:01:29 PM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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