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Should Christians Vote for the Vain and Boastful?
American Thinker.com ^ | October 27, 2020 | Ben Voth

Posted on 10/27/2020 9:06:32 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

Which were the perfect earthly men that God has ever used?
Noah? Moses? the 12 disciples? None.

Given a choice, I choose life, I choose active protection and upholding constitutional rights to be a Christian, speak freely, assemble freely, associate freely, right to self defense, and the right to be presumed innocent.


41 posted on 10/27/2020 9:24:16 AM PDT by TiGuy22
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To: Kaslin

People say trump is boastful lacking in humility full of pride, narcissistic. No he’s not. He is fighting for our country against baby murderers. He knows who he is and what his strengths and weaknesses are. That is the definition of humility.

We’re fighting against people in this country who gain and keep power by killing the innocent.


42 posted on 10/27/2020 9:24:47 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Sans-Culotte

My experience with his books is that there is generally about 25 pages of thought buried in 250 pages of sheer tedium.


43 posted on 10/27/2020 9:25:17 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Kaslin

In a twist on literature, the Rats are leading the Pious Piper.

May they all drown.


44 posted on 10/27/2020 9:25:18 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: Kaslin

Sounds like Piper is an idiot


45 posted on 10/27/2020 9:25:44 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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To: NFHale
Agreed. Piper followers lose the power of the present in search for the "perfect". God uses highly imperfect people for his Greater Glory and even Jesus worked with the "dregs of society", "deplorables", and "chumps".

Only difference was that Jesus didn't find them "irredeemable".

46 posted on 10/27/2020 9:25:48 AM PDT by MHT
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To: Kaslin
Wrong yardstick dummy.

POLICIES!!!!

Pro-Life and Pro-Constitution!!!

47 posted on 10/27/2020 9:25:55 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no merit in compromising with the Devil.)
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To: Kaslin

“Should Christians Vote for the Vain and Boastful?”

What a stupid, insipid question, as if there ever has been a politician who isn’t vain or boastful?

Sometimes I think so called Christians have no sense of self preservation, just a limitless supply of other cheeks for the left and islamists to slap around.


48 posted on 10/27/2020 9:26:55 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care! Guilting you is how they control you.)
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To: ealgeone

He likely does see it and is bought off. No Christian “leader” can be this dumb.


49 posted on 10/27/2020 9:27:57 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Kaslin

John Piper is a crazy Calvinist. He should know that God has already ordained everything, including what crack in the sidewalk he will trip on. Gee, you would almost think that Piper thinks that man has some kind of free will or something. He must have flunked Calvinism 101 in school.


50 posted on 10/27/2020 9:28:30 AM PDT by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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To: Kaslin

Question....Who should Christians vote for?

Answer: Since all have sinned and fall short of the Glory of God....we are ALWAYS choosing between the ‘lesser of two evils’.

ALWAYS.

President Trump is clearly the lesser of two evils in 2020.

The Democrats have given birth to a party platform that is measurably closer to aligning itself with the kingdom of hell. (abortion, same-sex marriage, gender identity....to name just a few.)

The Republican party has done the opposite and formed a party that is measurably closer to the Word of God.

Because of this, the choice (in our short lifetime) is made very easy.

TRUMP 2020!


51 posted on 10/27/2020 9:28:32 AM PDT by RevelationDavid (Don't just 'know about God'...... KNOW GOD....!)
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To: Kaslin

So this is a vote against Obama?
Kamala?
Biden?
Pelosi?


52 posted on 10/27/2020 9:28:46 AM PDT by Skywise
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To: Kaslin

John Piper’s essay was utterly inapt. He talked about policy and personal character. His thesis was bad character can be as harmful as bad policy. That whole argument misses the point. The President swears to uphold the Constitution. Pres. Trump largely has honored this oath. The Democrats plainly seek to subvert the Constitution. This is disqualifying for them.


53 posted on 10/27/2020 9:30:13 AM PDT by Tom in SFCA
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To: Kaslin
Is this what he is talking about?


54 posted on 10/27/2020 9:31:19 AM PDT by yoe (Vote for President Trump!..Keep America Great and protected by the US. Constitution.)
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To: Kaslin

Trump isn’t perfect, oh no!
That means it’s ok to vote for another candidate who supports killing babies.

Where does Mr Piper come up with this stuff?


55 posted on 10/27/2020 9:31:54 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Leave me alone, I have no incriminating evidence on the Clintons)
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To: Kaslin

He needs to read and pray about discernment.

In addition, he should read the parable about the 10 talents. As a US citizen, he has the ability to vote. Not voting is, in effect, burying his vote. He should review how that works out.


56 posted on 10/27/2020 9:31:59 AM PDT by alternatives? (If our borders are not secure, why fund an army?)
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To: MHT

I suppose I should rephrase my comment as “anyone that follows his ADVICE is a moron as well”.

People like him just p*ss me off mightily. He’s either a completely ignorant moron, or a knowingly complicit useful idiot.


57 posted on 10/27/2020 9:33:06 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Kaslin

If Trump was running against Jesus, I’d vote for Jesus. But he’s not.


58 posted on 10/27/2020 9:35:49 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: Kaslin

John Piper is many things..

I seem to recall him being a believer in Replacement Theology as well.

I don’t ever listen to his videos or read his writings.


59 posted on 10/27/2020 9:37:30 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything)
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To: Kaslin

Piper is right and please don’t jump to conclusions. He never said don’t vote for President Trump nor did he even say that he is not voting for President Trump. Pride, power arrogance and self-idolatry are heinously offensive to God. Pray for President Trump to repent for his own sake and ours.

The 1st Herod was not struck down instantly for slaughtering the babies of Bethlehem or John the Baptist. The 2nd Herod was struck instantly for encouraging the people of Tyre to worship him and not giving God the glory.

It’s NOT a sin to vote for President Trump. It is a sin to put a level of faith, hope and trust in President Trump that belongs to God.

Romans 9

15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.

16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.

17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.


60 posted on 10/27/2020 9:38:41 AM PDT by Theophilus
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