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Walmart files federal lawsuit, local doctor says patients have been caught in the middle
mypanhandle ^ | 10/25/2020 | Erika Orstad

Posted on 10/25/2020 5:49:37 AM PDT by devane617

The opioid crisis affects thousands of Americans daily; companies like Walmart work to curb addiction at their pharmacies by blocking questionable prescriptions.

However, in a federal lawsuit filed by the company on Thursday, Walmart leaders said federal agencies are asking them for too much, trying to require them to second-guess doctors’ orders on entire categories of prescriptions.

“It’s disturbing that this is the turn it’s taken,” said Dr. Joseph Sbarra, a local physician at Sickbay on Highway 77. News 13 interviewed him earlier this year when he said he’d had several patients say certain pharmacists were limiting their prescriptions that Dr. Sbarra had written.


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KEYWORDS: drugs; nannystate; ohdudeimsohigh; oxy; unmarkedexcerpt; wod
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The state is telling WMT not to interfere and the Feds are telling WMT TO interfere. This is an issue that needs to get fixed. Pharmacies do not need to be in the middle of this confusion.
1 posted on 10/25/2020 5:49:37 AM PDT by devane617
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From Panama City, Florida, BTW...


2 posted on 10/25/2020 5:50:42 AM PDT by devane617 (Kyrie Eleison, where I'm going, will you follow?)
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The first step should be to BAN All Opioids from ALL Public Employee’s and Government Retiree’s Nationwide, make it a FELONY to even Try to receive them.

Then we can talk about restricting the citizenry


3 posted on 10/25/2020 5:55:43 AM PDT by eyeamok
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Opioids are a civil right from 1776, stolen in 1906.

The crisis in opioids including almost all the deaths is due to government squeezing of pharmaceutical grade painkillers because of “addiction”, forcing people in pain, as well as others, to bathtub-made substitutes laced with lethal fentanyl.

Nice going, feds. /s

There are a few hundred thousand deaths to blame on the federal government.


4 posted on 10/25/2020 6:01:27 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Reverse Wickard v Filburn (1942) - and - ISLAM DELENDA EST)
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federal agencies are asking them for too much, trying to require them to second-guess doctors’ orders on entire categories of prescriptions.

Government deciding what medicine patients may get - sounds to me like socialized medicine.

5 posted on 10/25/2020 6:01:39 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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"The state is telling WMT not to interfere and the Feds are telling WMT TO interfere. This is an issue that needs to get fixed. Pharmacies do not need to be in the middle of this confusion."

You are correct. If a pharmacist becomes suspicious of a Dr. the best course of action is to inform the State Board of Pharmacy and State Medical Board. They can go through his records and find out is something is wrong.

I did retail for one year and hated it. I switched to hospital pharmacy for the next 26 years and loved it.

cpdiii (Pharmacist now retired)

6 posted on 10/25/2020 6:04:17 AM PDT by cpdiii (cane cutter, deckhand, roughhneck, geologist, pilot, pharmacist, old man, CONSTITUTION TO DIE FOR)
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To: eyeamok

Abuse of Opioids is a legitimate question, but the medical usage needs to be left to doctors. Opioids have a role to play in medical treatments.


7 posted on 10/25/2020 6:06:41 AM PDT by Lockbox
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As usual the drug addicts will get their drugs or buy them on the street. The only people this is hurting is those that have legit pain


8 posted on 10/25/2020 6:14:24 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: eyeamok
The first step should be to BAN All Opioids from ALL Public Employee’s and Government Retiree’s Nationwide, make it a FELONY to even Try to receive them.

So, a qualified doctor writes a prescription for a life-changing opioid, which, unfortunately has an addiction potential, and you would have someone, (I'm assuming you mean the Feds) swoop in and arrest them.

Then we can talk about restricting the citizenry

Read the US Constitution much?

Granted, the drug has addiction properties.

So does booze.

They tried banning that once, too, remember?

And booze has a lot less "medicinal" value than properly issued and consumed opioid, particularly when the opioid is issued and the use of it monitored by a qualified MD.

I just don't see your point.

I have personal knowledge of what opioids can do for a terminal patient that still wants some sort of awareness, and even in my own life, when, if not for opioids, I probably would not be walking today.

Should I have just kept my late wife drunk while she died, in a silly stupor, not knowing where she was or who she was...or was it better to have her pain assuaged by a drug that allowed her to sit and converse with me while her life ebbed away?

I still just don't see your point.

There is a place for opioids in medical practice.

A heavy-handed, knee-jerking bunch of politicians have destroyed the ability of doctors to manage the pain of their patients.

It's a damned shame and we need to start over with this issue and take a very close look at it.

And get the damned DEA out of the role of practicing medicine.

They aren't very good at it.

9 posted on 10/25/2020 6:14:31 AM PDT by OldSmaj (Living in the boondocks, bitterly clinging to my gun and my Bible. And loving it.)
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Abuse of Opioids is a legitimate question, but the medical usage needs to be left to doctors. Opioids have a role to play in medical treatments.

Amen! If government can't effectively combat opioid abuse without interfering in the legitimate practice of medicine, then government needs to end that combat and focus on harm mitigation.

10 posted on 10/25/2020 6:15:09 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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>>Opioids have a role to play in medical treatments.<<

The burden put on the patient that is truly in need of these meds is crazy. I don’t have the answer, but a known terminal patient or other with severe chronic well documented conditions should be able to get meds without making several trips to a pharmacy monthly.


11 posted on 10/25/2020 6:17:08 AM PDT by devane617 (Kyrie Eleison, where I'm going, will you follow?)
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The problem is some doctors have created this epidemic by irresponsibly prescribing opioids like candy.

My late s-i-l was one who went to a doctor who was notorious for it and got a lot of people addicted.

She died from an overdose of them. She was very obese, had probably the most addictive personality I had ever met, and was overall not a nice person. I did not like her and was not close to her.

My brother’s life has turned around markedly since she died.


12 posted on 10/25/2020 6:17:30 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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Prescriptions should be filled as written and medical licenses and prescription pads should be pulled as proper.


13 posted on 10/25/2020 6:19:49 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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The genesis of this is crooked doctors who do write Oxy scrips for cash. As usual government reaction is overreach.


14 posted on 10/25/2020 6:19:58 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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I don’t have the answer, but a known terminal patient or other with severe chronic well documented conditions should be able to get meds without making several trips to a pharmacy monthly.

Agreed.

There’s a point where addiction to pain killers is the least of a person’s worries.

15 posted on 10/25/2020 6:21:20 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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>>The first step should be to BAN All Opioids from ALL Public Employee’s and Government Retiree’s Nationwide, make it a FELONY to even Try to receive them.

Then we can talk about restricting the citizenry<<

So much for a quality of life for people suffering from cancers, muscular dystrophy and other painful debilitating ailments.

If a crooked doctor padding his pockets by prescribing to the general public, thereby feeding addictions...yea, I can see poppin the guy.

But to have this dogmatic approach to opioids is absolute lunacy.

My dad and also my FnL both suffered from enormously painful conditions and w/o these types of pain killing treatments, they were reduced from strong manly men to whimpering children.

Horrible to watch what they went through. The difference in their quality of life was significant when they would have opioids on board as opposed to not.

So..no, I’m 110% against this broad brush ban on opioids. Incidentally, in case folks are not aware, the U.S. government has the largest stockpile of opiates in the world...stored at non other than Fort Knox.

https://archive.seattletimes.com/archive/?date=19930916&slug=1721425


16 posted on 10/25/2020 6:21:57 AM PDT by servantboy777
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“The first step should be to BAN All Opioids from ALL Public Employee’s and Government Retiree’s Nationwide,”

I’m on a state retirement medical plan (combo Medicare/state plan). Are you saying I shouldn’t have been given oxycodone and hydrocodone after my hemorrhoid and shoulder operations?


17 posted on 10/25/2020 6:23:08 AM PDT by moovova
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I have long advocated making dilute solutions of cocaine (original formula pop) and codeine available to users.

We need to end the war on drugs.


18 posted on 10/25/2020 6:24:23 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide; OldSmaj

I lost someone close to me because after eight years of prescribed use, in 2016 the ‘authorities’ decided to lower their daily intake to what the government thought the ‘proper’ dosage level should be. Doing so to an elderly person in their 80’s is criminal in my book.

So, we’re ‘solving the opiod crisis’ by putting people who need it in awful pain - all because somewhere some dude is swiping a couple of grandma’s pills and getting high.

And Grandma just has to have to deal with it. What’s a little pain when we’re solving a non-problem?


19 posted on 10/25/2020 6:40:33 AM PDT by Not_Who_U_Think
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Great idea. None of those wounded veterans need that crap.

Yes. That’s sarcasm.

Idiot.

L


20 posted on 10/25/2020 6:43:44 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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