Why Pennsylvania miners are voting Trump — even though he didn’t bring jobs back

New York Post ^ | 10/24/2020 | Salena Zito

[Engraved-on-His-hands]

SYCAMORE, Pa. — The one thing all the guys know about Sara Vance is she never cries. Which is why her co-workers — all men — dropped their tools when Vance suddenly broke down in a flood of tears after she failed to shovel coal into a conveyor belt. Pregnant with her first child and just weeks before the due date, she was 1,200 feet below the surface of the earth with no easy way out.

[mmanager]

I worked 38 years in the industry. Worked in 21 in the mines and 17 out of corporate. In 2012 I got caught up in the Romney wars here and was banned. Many here would sit it out rather than vote for Romney. Jug Ears did a hell of a bunch of damage to this country. We had already seen what he did in the first four. I knew at that time if Jug Ears was re-elected my career was over. In 2013-2015 all the major’s went into bankruptcy. I asked to be packaged out in 2015 at the age of 58.

I know the miners as well as anyone. All the miners know even before Trump that the industry was in the crapper. We had one mine in WV that had a drilling rig for NG (not ours) within 200 yards of the mine office. The miners knew that NG was displacing coal. All the miners know that any long lasting future is working in metallurgical coal. They all know sequestration is a fantasy.

Less than 15% of all coal is union coal. Even they understand.

[ridesthemiles]

“to ‘create’ AND ‘Maintain’ conditions.....

[ridesthemiles]

Meanwhile, demanding more electric vehicles...

I’m really glad I can use propane for heating.

[Eagles6]

Yep.

I live about 15 miles from Harvey.

This is Trump country.

[lightman]

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Please ping me with articles of interest.

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[Olog-hai]

Maintain insofar as the private sector can do the maintenance for the most part, and to keep tyrants from grabbing from the private sector to create a “public sector”.

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

That isn’t cultural, it is mandatory in subsistence. Subsistence isn’t cultural, it is all there is when you have nothing. You get out of it if you can in any culture. And the 2nd generation out of it stops acting like it could happen to them again at any time.

You know when I realized this? 4th grade advanced program social studies when we compared American, Cossack and Australian Aboriginal “cultures”. I realized, probably unlike any of my classmates, that if the others had access to American capital, they would chuck their “cultures” of having nothing and next-to-nothing in about 2 seconds if they had any sense.

But then I traveled through some Indian reservations. Some people you can’t take it out of. But that isn’t the rule.

[Herakles]

All the major banks and brokerages support Biden and have been funding him. Regular people support and fund Trump. Pretty much says it all!

[Erik Latranyi]

Trump has transformed the Republican Party into the real champions of hard working people whatever they do.

Which is why I disagreed with all those FReepers who wanted to create another party. The GOP could be changed, it just needed the right leadership so the top positions can be filled wth good conservatives.

Trump is not just draining the DC Swamp....he is draining the GOP Swamp from the Romneys, Kristols and other RINOs.

[central_va]

Yes, but nobody referred to it as a pollutant.

Tell that to the EPA

EPA Formally Declares CO2 a Dangerous Pollutant

Link here.

[Olog-hai]

Red herring. Nobody on this thread referred to it as a pollutant.

[bdfromlv]

I recommend a movie Citizen X, Max Von Sydow, Donald Southerland, Stephen Rea, based at the end of the Soviet Union and Glasnows, Perastroika a serial killer party member working in a typical soviet factory with local political committees running things and the bureaucracy interfering in everything and shows the limited life of the workers and beneficial move to commerce based freedoms as the case progresses.

[JD_UTDallas]

https://btuanalytics.com/power-and-renewables/coal-to-gas-switching-in-2016/

Prices are even lower now than in 2016 per MMBtu for natural gas. Coal even at $40 ton can’t compete with $2 MMBtu gas. Add in the required emissions controls which for coal are absolutely correct for sulfur dioxide, nitrogen dioxide, particulates, lead, Mercury,arsenic and uranium particulates all of which are found in large quantities in coal ash and smoke. The ash is so loaded with metals the DOE is looking to literally mine them for the rare earth metals and uranium as well.