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Trump issues order for some career federal employees to lose their civil service protections
The Washington Post via SF Gate ^ | October 22, 2020 | by Eric Yoder, The Washington Post

Posted on 10/23/2020 4:22:31 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Career federal employees whose work involves making policy would no longer be hired under competitive procedures and would lose their civil service protections from being fired as well as eligibility to be represented by a union, under an executive order that President Donald Trump issued Wednesday.

The order would shift those employees from what is called the "competitive service"-covering the bulk of the 2.1 million executive branch employees-into the "excepted service," which in general applies to political appointees below the level requiring Senate confirmation.

"This is the most profound undermining of the civil service in our lifetimes," American Federation of Government Employees president Everett Kelley said in a statement. "The president has doubled down on his effort to politicize and corrupt the professional service."

"This executive order strips due process rights and protections from perhaps hundreds of thousands of federal employees and will enable political appointees and other officials to hire and fire these workers at will," he said.

Trump said his order will "give agencies greater ability and discretion to assess critical qualities in applicants to fill these positions, such as work ethic, judgment, and ability to meet the particular needs of the agency."

Among career employees, the "excepted service" mainly applies only in positions in which it is not practical to use competitive processes in hiring, such as administrative law judges and attorneys. Agencies also have greater disciplining such employees.

The order tells agencies to conduct an initial review within three months, and a full review within seven months, of their positions "of a confidential, policy-determining, policy-making, or policy-advocating character not normally subject to change as a result of a Presidential transition."

Agencies then are to ask the Office of Personnel Management to move those positions into a newly created category of the excepted service.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: election2020; federalworkers; publicservice; swamp
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1 posted on 10/23/2020 4:22:31 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

YES!!!!


2 posted on 10/23/2020 4:25:08 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This is hhhhhuugggggeeee.

That put a smile across my face.


3 posted on 10/23/2020 4:25:57 AM PDT by vg0va3
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Yes America. Like you and I....He gets it.


4 posted on 10/23/2020 4:28:18 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Brilliant move. These people are the ultimate deep state, petty bureaucrats who can use their positions over decades (witness Fauci) to completely thwart the will of the people as expressed in their choice of elected officials.

Trump (or any president and elected official) can do or say anything he wants, but some Democrat nobody in the offices charged with enacting his policy can completely nullify it, either by refusing to enact it or enacting completely opposite policies. And there’s nothing he can do about it, since these people cannot be fired and are not subject to any kind of review.

This was a great, long-overdue move.


5 posted on 10/23/2020 4:32:03 AM PDT by livius
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"The president has doubled down on his effort to politicize and corrupt the professional service."

HA..!! The stinking lawyers are going howl like the stuck pigs they are.. The free ride is over.. They will be held accountable for their conduct..

6 posted on 10/23/2020 4:34:20 AM PDT by unread (A REPUBLIC..! If you can keep it....)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

That’s not the action someone would take who expects to retire to Maralago in 3 months


7 posted on 10/23/2020 4:38:10 AM PDT by I-ambush (Got arrested for inciting a peaceful riot)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Very Reaganesque.


8 posted on 10/23/2020 4:39:24 AM PDT by moovova
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The president has doubled down on his effort to politicize and corrupt the professional service."

HA! I worked in the government for a good portion of my career. The whole thing is already politicized to the left. Every time a Republican would get in, people would slow walk the policy trying to wait until there was a change in administrations. (Does this ring bells with the FBI "investigations"?)

This is a change that is long past due.

9 posted on 10/23/2020 4:40:52 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Will this include Fauci?


10 posted on 10/23/2020 4:42:25 AM PDT by RealVirginia
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Everett Kelley "The president has doubled down on his effort to politicize and corrupt the professional service"

Hahahaha, buuuuwaaaahahah!!!!! You can't make this stuff up. And this tool is the head of this huge Union? His members have very low expectations for the position.

11 posted on 10/23/2020 4:49:10 AM PDT by DAC21 (S)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I was talking to my former Marine and wounded vet buddy. He said the VA was a long drive from where he was living. He would be scheduled for an 11 am therapy session and then a 4 pm doctor’s appointment in the same day. He asked them if they could look at the schedule and schedule them back to back so he wouldn’t have to make the long drive twice in a day. They told him, “We don’t do that.”

This is the problem of a government employee with no competition who can’t be removed from his job no matter what. They simply don’t care about anything but themselves.

At least if they can be fired it would create some sense of accountability.


12 posted on 10/23/2020 4:50:27 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
WINNING!!!

13 posted on 10/23/2020 4:51:15 AM PDT by Chode (Send bachelors and come heavily armed.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This is one of our President’s best Executive Orders EVER!!! It will be a huge drain on the swamp.

We just have to keep him in office or it will be reversed.


14 posted on 10/23/2020 4:52:34 AM PDT by demkicker (My passion for freedom is stronger than that of Democrats whose obsession is to enslave me.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
2.1 million executive branch employees

We have 2 million people working in government jobs?? Jefferson must be rolling in his grave.

15 posted on 10/23/2020 4:57:56 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady (The greatest wealth is to live content with little. -Plato)
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To: Gen.Blather

I thought a veteran could get private (pardon the pun) health insurance? My son goes to the VA cause it’s close. But your why hasn’t he pursued private care?


16 posted on 10/23/2020 4:57:57 AM PDT by HighSierra5
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Don’t get too excited. Excepted service employees are still hard as hell to fire.

The bigger effects are denying the AFGE dues paying bodies, making it moderately easier to get better candidates for a job hired at wages that will be attractive, and making it slightly harder for a govvie to burrow into the system by automatically getting hiring preference at a different agency if there’s a reduction in force in an agency.

At least half of the existing civil service jobs out there today haven’t been necessary since the advent of the personal computer, but the rules are unwieldy and difficult to change. A wholesale redo of government employment would be better, but that would take legislation and cooperation with the Dems, who would rather have a tantrum than allow the people a win.


17 posted on 10/23/2020 5:00:15 AM PDT by jz638
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

We could fire at least 50% of the Gubmint and you’d say “ it’s a beautiful day” just like the day before.


18 posted on 10/23/2020 5:02:08 AM PDT by HighSierra5
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“But your why hasn’t he pursued private care?”

I will see him in a bit and I’ll ask.


19 posted on 10/23/2020 5:02:50 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud?)
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Its the same thing with private doctors too. I’ve experienced it.


20 posted on 10/23/2020 5:02:53 AM PDT by sauropod (Let them eat kale. I will not comply.)
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