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The Electoral College did more in 2016 than you might think: Without the Electoral College, it would be just three counties picking America's President!
American Thinker ^ | 10/19/2020 | James Swofford

Posted on 10/19/2020 9:01:05 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

As the attacks on the Electoral College continue, we can see how important the Electoral College is from the 2016 presidential election results. Many observers have noted that Clinton's margin in California was greater than her plurality nationwide. Many observers have also argued that without the Electoral College, a couple or a few large states would dominate elections. What few if any have noticed is that in 2016, the Electoral College prevented 3 out of 3,141 counties with about 5% of the electorate and population from picking the president.

According to the New York Times election results, Hillary Clinton received 2,868,519 or about 2% more than President Trump out of the 128,838,731 votes the two major party candidates received. The county-by-county vote totals from the Times show that in 2016, the Electoral College saved the U.S. from one or a couple of state picking the president. In 2016, Clinton won Los Angeles County, Calif., 2,464,364 to 769,743, or by 1,694,621 votes. She also won Cook County (Chicago), Illinois 1,611,946 to 453,287, or by 1,158,659 votes. So Clinton's margin in just two counties, L.A. and Cook, was 2,853,280, just 15,239 votes short of her 2,868,519 vote plurality nationwide.

Now, maybe this story would be neater if Clinton's plurality came from just two counties. Still, the facts are that those 15,239 votes must be made up by a third county. There are a few counties with a Clinton margin greater than 15,239 votes in 2016, but the one with the third greatest Clinton margin in 2016 was New York County (Manhattan), New York, where she won 579,013 to 64,929 or by 514,084 votes. That means that Clinton won L.A., Chicago, and Manhattan by 3,367,364, or by 498,845 votes more than her nationwide 2,868,519 plurality.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016; 2016election; electoralcollege; faithlesselectors; nationalpopularvote; npv
Put another way, without those three counties, President Trump would have had an almost half-million (498,845) vote plurality in 2016. This Trump plurality would have come from California, including San Francisco less L.A. County; Illinois, less Cook County; New York including Brooklyn, the Bronx, and Queens, less Manhattan; plus the other 47 states and Washington, D.C.
1 posted on 10/19/2020 9:01:05 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Electoral College effect - bump for later....


2 posted on 10/19/2020 9:02:25 AM PDT by indthkr
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To: SeekAndFind

What was Hillary’s vote margin with illegals?


3 posted on 10/19/2020 9:03:47 AM PDT by CatOwner
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To: SeekAndFind

What is it about big cities that turns people in to idiots?


4 posted on 10/19/2020 9:08:19 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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5 posted on 10/19/2020 9:09:20 AM PDT by proust (Justice delayed is injustice.)
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To: Pontiac

RE: What is it about big cities that turns people in to idiots?

GOVERNMENT WELFARE CENTERS ARE ALL CONCENTRATED IN BIG CITIES, SO ARE MAJOR UNIVERSITIES AND THE ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY.


6 posted on 10/19/2020 9:09:29 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Pontiac

I don’t know that it turns people into idiots, as much as idiots are drawn to them like flies to ..... honey....


7 posted on 10/19/2020 9:11:25 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Pontiac

Nothing. Idiots just tend to gather in them.


8 posted on 10/19/2020 9:12:20 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: SeekAndFind

LOL some truth there. There’s an old joke in LA that mpst waiters and waitresses in LA moved there from somewhere else, and are working in bars and restaurants waiting for their big break in show business.


9 posted on 10/19/2020 9:15:30 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Pontiac

Cities turn people into group thinkers and they lose self reliance...dependent on buses and trains. Much easier to manipulate the masses when they all live in a relatively small congested area. Infiltrate the media, the unions, bid EDU and it all goes from there.


10 posted on 10/19/2020 9:21:37 AM PDT by Phillyred (Kieran Hussie)
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To: hinckley buzzard

That’s part of it, but people who grow up in a very liberal section of a big city will almost certainly be a liberal, whereas they more than likely wouldn’t be one if they grew up on a farm. Recall what Andrew Breitbart said about being liberal as the default factory setting where he grew up.


11 posted on 10/19/2020 9:24:05 AM PDT by lasereye
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To: SeekAndFind

bkmk


12 posted on 10/19/2020 9:35:56 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: SeekAndFind

Three completely corrupt democrat counties would appoint the president. The U.S.A would be Venezuela North.


13 posted on 10/19/2020 9:38:19 AM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everythill you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
What few if any have noticed is that in 2016, the Electoral College prevented 3 out of 3,141 counties with about 5% of the electorate and population from picking the president... The county-by-county vote totals from the Times show that in 2016, the Electoral College saved the U.S. from one or a couple of state picking the president. In 2016, Clinton won Los Angeles County, Calif., 2,464,364 to 769,743, or by 1,694,621 votes. She also won Cook County (Chicago), Illinois 1,611,946 to 453,287, or by 1,158,659 votes. So Clinton's margin in just two counties, L.A. and Cook, was 2,853,280, just 15,239 votes short of her 2,868,519 vote plurality nationwide... the one with the third greatest Clinton margin in 2016 was New York County (Manhattan), New York, where she won 579,013 to 64,929 or by 514,084 votes. That means that Clinton won L.A., Chicago, and Manhattan by 3,367,364, or by 498,845 votes more than her nationwide 2,868,519 plurality.

14 posted on 10/19/2020 9:44:52 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

L.A. is a great big freeway
Put a hundred down and buy a car
In a week, maybe two, they’ll make you a star
Weeks turn into years
How quick they pass
And all the stars that never were
Are parking cars and pumping gas


15 posted on 10/19/2020 10:17:57 AM PDT by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: proust
Look at all the big pokey things on the map to help spot the voter fraud.
16 posted on 10/19/2020 10:40:11 AM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Their argument gets too messy and goes to “popular vote” cases.

The best argument is just sticking to out of all the counties in the country, where Trump won 3,084 of the 3,141 counties in the election.

A country is not merely where most people are. It is the land, the places, the villages, towns, cities and counties across the country. To be President for the whole country needs to represent more of all that than merely a “popular” vote representing merely a bunch of very high population places.


17 posted on 10/19/2020 10:42:17 AM PDT by Wuli
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The best argument is just sticking to out of all the counties in the country, where Trump won 3,084 of the 3,141 counties in the election.

The actual county numbers were 2,626 counties for Trump and 487 counties for Clinton in the 2016 election.

dvwjr

18 posted on 10/20/2020 1:16:54 AM PDT by dvwjr
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To: dvwjr

I relied on some link I found. I should have double checked,

Yet, even with the corrected numbers the argument still holds.

2,262 counties versus 487 counties demonstrates representation over a much greater share of the country.


19 posted on 10/20/2020 6:21:24 AM PDT by Wuli
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