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Dilbert Creator Scott Adams Brings His Famous Logic To The Mask Debate, But Is He Right?
Townhall.com ^ | October 19, 2020 | Scott Morefield

Posted on 10/19/2020 5:12:55 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Pravious
I didn't google it, I duck duck go'ed it, but it's easier to say I googled it.

Example #1) Studies have shown COVID-19 can survive on surfaces, like a tabletop. But the CDC’s updated messaging on COVID-19 and surfaces clarifies that just because we could get the virus from these surfaces, doesn't mean that’s actually happening.

Example #2) SARS-CoV-2, the virus responsible for COVID-19, can survive for up to 28 days on common surfaces including banknotes, glass — such as that found on mobile phone screens — and stainless steel.

I'm sure you either believe what you posted or are just trying to be argumentative, but here's my point; there is no source of information regarding this virus that isn't contradicted 100% of the time the instant they make a statement.

This is like the global warming or the Jesus of diseases, you have to believe in it.

41 posted on 10/19/2020 7:26:01 AM PDT by WhoisAlanGreenspan? (Keep looking up.)
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To: cba123

Correlation isn’t causation. And I doubt they have been wearing any more masks than Westerners. Asians tend to have fewer Ace-2 receptors, which contribute to Covid causing a cytokine storm.


42 posted on 10/19/2020 7:30:59 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Kaslin

I listen to many of his podcasts. He generally arrives at his conclusions through careful logical analysis - but when discussing religious belief, he always says “I’m not a believer”, which I take to mean he’s an atheist.

I recently heard him say that we are “wired” to have religious beliefs. Anyone who believes in the theory of evolution believes the way we are “wired” is the product of evolution. Some believe the theologically ludicrous idea that God guided apes to evolve into people, but I don’t think Adams believes that.

Why would evolution “wire” us to have religious belief? There’s no plausible evolutionary scenario for that. Actually there’s no plausible scenario for the evolutionary development of any new traits, but religious belief “evolving” is especially implausible. I recall some years ago a scientist claimed to have found the gene that controls religious belief. LOL.


43 posted on 10/19/2020 7:38:20 AM PDT by lasereye
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To: calenel

“Yeah, you’re special. It’s all about you...”

Masks don’t work. HOSPITAL MASKS with hospital PROTOCOLS may help some. But it is certain state-wide homemade mask mandates do nothing. And no politician is talking about everyone following hospital protocols.

Multiple states have mandated masks everywhere. Even those with very high compliance (California) failed to dent the increase. If masks work, they should dent the growth in 5-10 days.

Meanwhile, masks in Europe aren’t preventing cases from climbing again.

It just does not work. And your paranoia is not justification for everyone else to bow down and kiss your butt.


44 posted on 10/19/2020 7:39:27 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Pravious

“If person X wears a mask, it protects person X to some extent.”

False. Simply false. Look at all the studies done before this became politicized.


45 posted on 10/19/2020 7:41:07 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: southernindymom

If you didn’t understand Dilbert, you’ve never been in big business. Dilbert is satire that hits too close to home. Every office has a Wally, and at least one pointy haired boss. There are such things as pointless meetings and ‘productivity’ measures that are anti-productive.

You look at a Dilbert cartoon and see something which makes absolutely no sense.

We look at a Dilbert cartoon and see something that just happened yesterday, or last week, or (you get the idea).


46 posted on 10/19/2020 7:41:23 AM PDT by Kommodor (Make America Detroit Again - Vote Democrat! :P)
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47 posted on 10/19/2020 7:45:01 AM PDT by Kommodor (Make America Detroit Again - Vote Democrat! :P)
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To: T. P. Pole
How well does it spread if one does not have the symptoms? Ah, very good point.
48 posted on 10/19/2020 7:46:05 AM PDT by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting.)
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To: southernindymom
I've enjoyed Dilbert, partly from working in a large company, partly for working in IT, where you need to explain to people (like managers and execs) why it is you're doing things that you understand, have no idea what it is you're talking about.

Back in the day (late 1980s,) I used to teach network administration, and every Friday (casual Friday) when I was teaching, I'd wear my "Dilbert Tie," which always got a great reply from my students... It had the same pattern, and a wire inside it that allowed it to stand-off at an angle.

Mark

49 posted on 10/19/2020 7:47:27 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: southernindymom
Dilbert's humor works for lots of people because corporate groupthink is so strong. I mean that all corporations follow the same dumb trends at the same time. So when Adams writes a strip lampooning some stupid new training everyone has to take everybody who works in a large bureaucratic company thinks 'holy cow, he must work in my building! I had that training yesterday'. I work in such a company and I work with people in many other similar companies and everybody thinks Dilbert is making fun of their specific company, it's that dead on. But it turns out all such companies are the same.

Of course if you don't work in a large bureaucratic company than I can see how it falls flat. It's pretty targetted to a specific subset of people, albeit a very large subset.

50 posted on 10/19/2020 8:25:58 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: ml/nj

I think you are implying that odors go through masks because the particles that make them up are smaller than the openings between the fibers of the masks. But you don’t think that viruses, which are also smaller than these openings, do not.

This doesn’t make sense to me.

ML/NJ

Someone else here posted this (I’m sorry, I didn’t note who it was) that explains this better than I could:

“For N95 masks, the point is to FILTER air; NOT “restrict” it.

For regular surgical masks and the like, it’s not even doing much of that. What it’s actually doing is filtering respiratory droplets, which are how SARS-CoV-2 primarily spreads. In open air, SARS-CoV-2 (like all viruses) experiences rapid protein deformation, rending it inert and non-infectious. For it to spread, it requires droplets of liquid - such as saliva - which a mask helps trap.

Masks reduce both the volume and range of the respiratory droplets that enable transmission of SARS-CoV-2, which substantially reduces the risk of transmission for those nearby an infected person.”


51 posted on 10/19/2020 8:28:49 AM PDT by Pravious
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To: Mr Rogers

“If person X wears a mask, it protects person X to some extent.”

False. Simply false. Look at all the studies done before this became politicized.

I wear a KN-95 mask. If it’s “false” that it protects me in any way, why does anyone anywhere wear them at all? Why do they exist? Why do medical people wear N-95’s? Why do contractors wear similar masks to protect themselves? Is all that “simply false” as well?


52 posted on 10/19/2020 8:33:59 AM PDT by Pravious
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To: T. P. Pole

LOL!


53 posted on 10/19/2020 8:46:42 AM PDT by Sooner Gal
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To: Kaslin

Masks are just a virtue signal most of the time. Where they are needed are situation where you are forced to be in close proximity with people for longer lengths of time like when eating or visiting....where most people don’t use them.


54 posted on 10/19/2020 8:48:57 AM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: Kaslin

Scott Adams is a 21st century Loki...do not take anything he says at face value.


55 posted on 10/19/2020 8:53:01 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: Pravious

Why? Because they CAN help against BACTERIAL INFECTIONS.


56 posted on 10/19/2020 8:53:29 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Mr Rogers

Yes, I know that.

Are you asserting that N-95’s do not protect against droplets (from coughing, sneezing, etc) that might contain COVID?


57 posted on 10/19/2020 8:55:39 AM PDT by Pravious
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To: ml/nj
I think you are implying that odors go through masks because the particles that make them up are smaller than the openings between the fibers of the masks. But you don't think that viruses, which are also smaller than these openings, do not.

You can't use logic with the mask fanatics. They either don't care or are unfamiliar with the concept.

58 posted on 10/19/2020 9:20:26 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: Pravious

They protect the spread from infected people.


59 posted on 10/19/2020 9:31:27 AM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: Pravious
When I approach an area that demands I have a mask in my possession, I bring one of these:

If I have to enter an area that demands I WEAR a mask, I wear one of these.

BTW, I work in the bowels of a hospital. I'm one of the guys who ensures you have heat, light, air, water, medical gases, etc. I've only gotten good reactions. Well, after the initial shock, that is...(especially the plague doctor mask < BEG >)

60 posted on 10/19/2020 12:19:37 PM PDT by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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