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Make All Federal Employees Fireable
National Review ^ | February 2, 2017 | Grant Starrett

Posted on 10/18/2020 9:29:55 AM PDT by demkicker

Before Donald Trump promised to “Make America Great Again,” he entertained millions of Americans through a weekly ritual of telling his least favorite employees, “You’re fired!”

Yet despite his pledges to “drain the swamp,” Trump won’t be able to do the same thing with most of his new workforce: the federal bureaucracy....

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bureaucracydeath
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To: ConservativeInPA
"Step 1: Make illegal and abolish all federal employee unions labor unions."

Fixed it for you.

The only reason collective bargaining still isn't punishable as a violation of the Sherman Anti-Trust Act is that in 1935 two demoncrat-controlled houses of Congress passed the National Labor relations Act (signed by America's first All-Socialist, All-the-Time POTUS, and which sailed past Constitutional muster before a demoncrat-controlled SCOTUS), which specifically authorized labor unions to engage in collective bargaining and labor strikes. Which not only violates Sherman, organized strikes amount to extortion. Collective Bargaining also is tantamount to "price-fixing," meaning labor is the only node in the entire manufacturing process that can legally engage in price-fixing, which is fiscally unsound and fundamentally unfair.

So just repeal the 1935 NLRA and the federal dead wood gets taken care of in the process.

Not to mention that the major labor unions today are little more than criminal organizations and a key source of money-laundering for the demoncrats.

21 posted on 10/18/2020 11:10:15 AM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: antidemoncrat
Thanks to JFK’s executive order allowing them to unionize ...

That EO can be done away with by the stroke of a pen. I hope its on the agenda for President Trump's second term.

22 posted on 10/18/2020 11:16:27 AM PDT by T Ruth (Mohammedanism shall be destroyed.)
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To: DugwayDuke

“where every incoming administration fired all employees”

All employees? That never happened.

You shouldn’t lie.


23 posted on 10/18/2020 11:22:19 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: T Ruth

DACA was also enacted by an EO from Obama but the “The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that the Trump administration’s attempt to end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program is “arbitrary and capricious” and cannot proceed.”
From National Review 6/18/2020


24 posted on 10/18/2020 11:31:37 AM PDT by antidemoncrat (Biden's)
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To: reasonisfaith

reasonisfaith wrote: “All employees? That never happened.”

Suggest you do some research on the Civil Service System before calling folks liars.

FWIW, any federal employee can be fired now. It’s just incredibly difficult. The best thing to reform the federal civil service system would be to get rid of the unions


25 posted on 10/18/2020 11:34:23 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (A Man Hears What He Wants to Hear and Disregards the Rest)
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To: DugwayDuke

Don’t fire anyone. Polygraph everyone as a security measure. People will voluntarily leave less they get caught committing crimes against the government.


26 posted on 10/18/2020 11:50:28 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Cloward-Piven is finally upon us.)
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To: Paal Gulli

I’ll go along with all labor unions being abolish. No problem with that one.


27 posted on 10/18/2020 11:52:54 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA ("War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength." - George Orwell, 1984)
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To: DugwayDuke

Nobody ever fired all federal employees.

“any federal employee can be fired now. It’s just incredibly difficult”

That’s the problem. Maybe you’re starting to understand?

It needs to be changed from incredibly difficult to incredibly easy.


28 posted on 10/18/2020 12:24:32 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: demkicker
1) stop hiring....limit funding...

2) 2 FIRES/RETIRES PER HIRE.

2 administrative laws/decrees removed for each new one.,p

3) Finally, move all the cabinet positions and agencies out of DC:

Dept of Defense: Omaha, NE, Bangor, WA, Tampa, FL
Dept of Treasury: Denver, CO
Dept of Commerce: KCMO
Dept of Interior: Couer D'Alane, ID
Dept of Energy: Tennessee Valley
FBI: Dismantle and reform in USMS
ATF: Disband, roll arson group into USMS.
Dept of housing: WV
Dept of Education: dismantle
Dept of Agriculture: Stuttgart, AR

You get the jist.....move these agencies and departments FAR and WIDE....most DC swamp rats will never leave the DC/Baltimore area. Let the parasites stay in the filth.

29 posted on 10/18/2020 12:29:50 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (COMDEMS would rather rule over a pile of ashes, than lose to Trump and REAL Americans)
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To: demkicker

btt

NO TENURE FOR TEACHERS EITHER


30 posted on 10/18/2020 12:37:19 PM PDT by GailA (TRUMP IS A GUTSY PRESIDENT)
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To: DCBryan1

What is USMS?


31 posted on 10/18/2020 12:38:55 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: demkicker

I worked in the Federal government for three years in the mid-1970s and again for one year (under a temporary one-year Interagency Personnel Agreement) in the early 1980s. A few observations and recollections:

1. It is the Civil Service system, not Federal unions, which give employment protection to Federal workers.

2. Many upper-level, but non-political, Federal positions are exempt from Civil-Service protections in exchange for higher salaries. People in those jobs can be terminated.

3. There are sensible reforms to the Civil Service system
that could be implemented that fall short of the complete abolition of job protections. One might be the institution of an up-or-out system like the one that exists in many law, accounting, and consulting firms (and to a degree in the military). Another reform might be extending the current probationary period before (limited) job protections kick in.

4. The number of civilian Federal employees (around two million) hasn’t changed much in 50 years. The big growth in government bureaucracy has occurred at the state and local levels.


32 posted on 10/18/2020 1:02:44 PM PDT by riverdawg
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To: riverdawg

I think there should be a mandatory retirement age for feds.

One of the HUGE problems is we are staffed for baby boomer numbers. They re dying off. We need to adjust our staffing accordingly.


33 posted on 10/18/2020 1:13:09 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: EQAndyBuzz

“Polygraph everyone as a security measure. People will voluntarily leave less they get caught committing crimes against the government.”

And drug test them too.


34 posted on 10/18/2020 1:34:40 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (BLM= Baby Lives Matter)
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To: DugwayDuke

Exactly !

I also would end the SES it’s been a failure. A bad idea from the Carter years, a period of time of mostly bad ideas. Go back to the something similar to the “super-grade” system


35 posted on 10/18/2020 1:38:59 PM PDT by Reily
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To: Vermont Lt

“I think there should be a mandatory retirement age for feds.”

That is also a reasonable reform. As to staffing levels, the number of Federal civilian workers is the same as when members of the so-called Greatest Generation (the Boomers’ parents) were in their 50s and early 60s. The Boomer generation didn’t cause any increase in Federal employment.


36 posted on 10/18/2020 1:43:32 PM PDT by riverdawg
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To: antidemoncrat
You raise a salient point that the Supreme Court may again act lawlessly, but . . .

"Chief Justice John Roberts, joined by the four liberal judges, ruled that Trump’s decision to rescind DACA violated the Administrative Procedure Act."

It may be that the Supreme Court no longer has four nihilist justices who would join the opinion of a squish.

37 posted on 10/18/2020 1:45:07 PM PDT by T Ruth (Mohammedanism shall be destroyed.)
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To: tbw2
We should outlaw the federal, state and local employees’ unions, too.

Agree and know this would not only save billions in the long run, it would help clean up corruption.

38 posted on 10/18/2020 2:19:44 PM PDT by demkicker (My passion for freedom is stronger than that of Democrats whose obsession is to enslave me.)
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To: demkicker

All federal employees are fire-able.


39 posted on 10/18/2020 2:21:08 PM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: DCBryan1
You get the jist.....move these agencies and departments FAR and WIDE....most DC swamp rats will never leave the DC/Baltimore area. Let the parasites stay in the filth.

Love your suggestions. If Dept of Education can't be dismantled, move it to Ten Buck Two! State Dept needs to be in the mix as well....

40 posted on 10/18/2020 2:32:21 PM PDT by demkicker (My passion for freedom is stronger than that of Democrats whose obsession is to enslave me.)
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