Here's What Happens When You Try to Scale Up Vaccine Production Too Quickly (when live polio made its way into vaccines...whoops)

Ozy ^ | September 18, 2020 | Virat Markandeya

[DoodleBob]

The purpose of this article isn't to trash any COVID19 vaccine. But rather, to highlight that even the 'safest' plans can go awry, and that waiting doesn't ipso facto make you an anti-vaxxer.

[Pining_4_TX]

It turned me into a newt....

I got better.

[Repeal The 17th]

We all went to the local high school
and had the Sabin sugar cube back in the day...

[vetvetdoug]

I took graduate courses in microbiology at the University of Tennessee. In one course we studied the “Cutter Incident” and several other not well known incidents. One was where a vaccine against an Adenovirus was developed to use on military recruits because the Adenovirus was causing some severe respiratory problems in USAF recruits. The vaccine was tested on 1000 USAF recruits in January of 1974 to a rousing success until further research found that the vaccine piggybacked an “Onc” gene, a gene that caused cancer in laboratory animals. I would have never known that I was one of the recruits that received that vaccine had I not taken a graduate course in virology taught by one of the developers of the vaccine. I take the flu vaccine yearly and other vaccines needed for older citizens.

[HighSierra5]

Did they shut everything down in those days?

[DoodleBob]

This is precisely my intent...for all to be as fully-informed as possible.

I have no doubt that the FDA will have all firms run through the ringer (a ringer that usually requires a 6-foot tall pile of research costing $250MM) so I don't have that DNC-instilled "they're gonna cut corners under Trump" concern.

But operational risks are aplenty in something like this, and I suspect people believe it's smooth sailing once you get FDA approval. As this story shows, that's not always the case.

[DoodleBob]

That’s better than pining for the fjords.

[the_Watchman]

My mother’s brother died from polio contracted around 1952. He spent the last weeks of his life in an iron lung.

[Pikachu_Dad]

What a great idea... "world), it was seen as a sign of his confidence in the treatment. But he wasn’t the first person to use his family to instill confidence..." Here is another application of that method. Russian rocket program was criticized because its fuel was unstable. So the team leader insisted on sitting in the bleachers to watch the launch to demonstrate that he had confidence that the fuel was safe. In fact, his entire rocket team 'decided' to join him. It was a most excellent showing of confidence in their design... Explosion🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Oh wait. The rocket blew up on launch. (Nedelin catastrophe) The entire design team was killed.... Um, nevermind.

[Trailerpark Badass]

No one here remembers the swine flu vaccine?

[Pikachu_Dad]

“A short circuit in the replaced main sequencer caused the second-stage engine to fire while being tested before launch. This detonated the first stage fuel tanks directly below, destroying the missile in an enormous explosion. Before seeking refuge, the camera operator remotely activated automatic cameras set around the launching pad that filmed the explosion in detail. People near the rocket were instantly incinerated; those farther away were burned to death or poisoned by the toxic fuel component vapors. Andrei Sakharov described many details: as soon as the engine fired, most of the personnel there ran to the perimeter, but were trapped inside the security fence and then engulfed in the fireball of burning fuel. The explosion incinerated or asphyxiated Nedelin, a top aide, the USSR’s top missile-guidance designer, and over 70 other officers and engineers. Others died later of burns or poisoning.[3][2][4][1] Missile designer Mikhail Yangel and the test range commanding officer survived only because they had left to smoke a cigarette behind a bunker a few hundred metres away, but nonetheless suffered burn injuries.[3][5]”

[chaosagent]

We all went to the local high school
and had the Sabin sugar cube back in the day...

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That would have been a few years later, in the 63-64 time frame.

[greeneyes]

Did they shut everything down in those days?
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The max vaccination program was shut down about a month after it started while they determined what happened and made adjustments-then it started again.

I was one of the students vaccinated back then, but our school was lucky—it did not get the cutter variety.

In addition, the next year had contamination from SV40 and that wasn’t discovered for a few years, IIRC.

There were also problems with the oral vaccine in the beginning.

I do get some vaccines. Not the flu vax, and not usually the first time around for new stuff. Just my preference

[Pining_4_TX]

Or being bitten by a moose. Mind you, moose bites can be nasty. ;-)

[DoodleBob]

Classic....I used it yesterday in a slightly different context.

[DoodleBob]

not usually the first time around for new stuff.

Which, at its core, is what this saga is about.

If we were facing runaway Ebola with a 80%+ fatality rate if you contract it, many would be lining up for it. But we're facing a pretty nasty virus with a 'low' fatality rate of about 0.4% if you get it, where 94% of those dying from it have at least one comorbidity.

Thus, letting others be the crash-test dummy for safety controls isn't an unwise move.

[greeneyes]

Yes, well I am 73 and have a few health issues, but I haven’t had the flu for several decades, and have never had a flu shot. So I will be continuing to avoid it and this new vax until more data is available.

[Truthoverpower]

The vaccine industry is evil. Doubt me ?

Why are 100% of demoncraps for FORCED vaccines. ?

Why is there a 10 Billion $ and counting fund to pay off parents with dead or retarded kids ? Hmmmmmm?

They’re Do gooders from HELL

[Georgia Girl 2]

I still remember lining up outside the school building and the nurses handing out the pink sugar cubes.

[Secret Agent Man]

further sv-40 virus was in the polio vax as well

they knew it was in there

they did not bother to take this known contaminant out

sv-40 is a virus they knew at the time, caused cancers in primates

therefore it would affect people

and it isn’t a coincidence that all forms of cancer in people skyrocketed since this vaccine was given to most americans alove in the 50s and early 60s

and if affects their children they had afterwards