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Federal Judge Signals It’s Clear That Trump Tweet Intended to Declassify All Mueller Documents, Orders DOJ to Find Out
Law & Crime ^ | 10/16/2020 | MATT NAHAM

Posted on 10/16/2020 4:21:58 PM PDT by aimhigh

The world is turned upside down: the press says President Donald Trump was telling the truth when he said on Twitter that he declassified all “Russia Hoax” documents, while the Department of Justice argues in court that the president of the United States lied about that. On Friday, Senior U.S. District Judge Reggie Walton said during a hearing that the president’s intent on the subject of complete declassification of Russia documents seemed crystal clear.

Ever since Robert Mueller’s Russia report was released with redactions, multiple lawsuits have sought to force the DOJ to disclose anything from grand jury information to FBI witness interview reports known as 302s. BuzzFeed has been at the forefront of these challenges, while the DOJ has fought tooth-and-nail against these lawsuits at every turn. Then the president stepped in it, promising the declassification of “any and all” Russia documents with “no redactions.” Note: he used the words “I have fully authorized.” . . . . .

Trump, who has called the Mueller investigation a hoax and witch hunt since day one, put the DOJ in the awkward position of having to tell Judge Walton that the president has no idea what he’s talking about and certainly didn’t mean what he said. That’s what DOJ did on Oct. 13.
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TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: dcdistrict; documents; dubyajudge; federaljudge; judiciary; mueller; politicaljudiciary; reggiebwalton; reggiewalton; trump; trumptweet
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Released, or not?
1 posted on 10/16/2020 4:21:58 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: aimhigh

Is a tweet a legal authorization? I really don’t know.


2 posted on 10/16/2020 4:24:50 PM PDT by pnut22
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To: pnut22
Is a tweet a legal authorization? I really don’t know.

No it would be followed up with official correspondence. Agencies don't respond to tweets if they want to cover their butts which they all do.

3 posted on 10/16/2020 4:28:58 PM PDT by usurper ( version)
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To: pnut22
"Is a tweet a legal authorization? I really don’t know."

The tweet may not be but the content on the tweet matters:

"Note: he used the words “I have fully authorized...”

That is presuming the rest of President Trump's sentence continued:

"..release of unredacted material from the fake russian collusion investigation.."

4 posted on 10/16/2020 4:30:51 PM PDT by chief lee runamok (Anti Socialist Derelict at Large)
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To: chief lee runamok

So Barr is leading the charge to block the release of the documents? No wonder he and Wray are buds. They both need to be frogmarched out of Washington on the morning of November 4.


5 posted on 10/16/2020 4:33:02 PM PDT by littleharbour ("You take on the intel community they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you" C. Schumer)
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To: aimhigh

So the takeaway here is that the DOJ is still trying to coverup their bad acts and refuses to release documents. Which they did last time Trump authorized Barr to release documents, nothing released. Anyone still think Barr is a white hat?


6 posted on 10/16/2020 4:33:58 PM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: aimhigh
Authorized is not the same as ordered.
7 posted on 10/16/2020 4:35:55 PM PDT by Bratch (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: aimhigh

“I have fully authorized the total Declassification of any & all documents pertaining to the single greatest political CRIME in American History, the Russia Hoax. Likewise, the Hillary Clinton Email Scandal. No redactions!” Trump tweeted on Oct. 6.”


First, it does not say ‘I am authorizing.’

Second, where is the proof that he, in fact, did authorize it?

I don’t think a tweet — in the past tense—cuts it.

PS: I would love to see it ALL redacted.

STE=Q


8 posted on 10/16/2020 4:37:47 PM PDT by STE=Q ("Education is the kindling of a flame, not the filling of a vessel"... Socrates)
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To: Whenifhow; null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; AZ .44 MAG; Baynative; bgill; ...

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9 posted on 10/16/2020 4:40:01 PM PDT by bitt (He is fighting for us so I am going to fight for him!)
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To: aimhigh

The Federal Judge is correct. The President’s order is Crystal Clear. There is nothing in the Constitution that dictates what form a Direct Order from the Chief Executive must take. There’s no law and if there were it would likely be unconstitutional.
The DOJ is playing games in order to delay hoping he will lose in November. The entire Swamp, Barr included, has been playing this game.


10 posted on 10/16/2020 4:40:16 PM PDT by ocrp1982
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To: littleharbour

Why wait? He ought to fire them now and put in acting replacements.


11 posted on 10/16/2020 4:40:17 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: ocrp1982

DO IT!!!!!


12 posted on 10/16/2020 4:40:57 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: jersey117

We’d all like that but it’s too explosive 2 weeks before Nov. 3rd.


13 posted on 10/16/2020 4:45:30 PM PDT by citizen (Women are from Venus and Men are from Mars. A,ll the other genders you make up are from Uranus.)
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I believe Barr held back portions of the Mueller lies (report) because the MSM will treat the lies as if they are truth and run with it. Note the MSM and people like Pelosi have never stopped asserting that Trump is guilty of colluding with Russia.
Redacted portions were other persons named and I think it’s likely they were going after the president’s children the same way they went after Flynn’s son in litigation. So, Barr held that back for the time being but I don’t think they planned on redacting them forever.

I hope all is released soon. Yes, the deep state will treat Mueller’s false assertions as if they are true and it will be messy, but we the people have to decide ultimately.


14 posted on 10/16/2020 4:45:49 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: aimhigh

As I posted, in part, yesterday on this topic of declassification:

And the president needs to remember that the bureaucracy will not accept a tweet, such as the one directing the declassification and release without redaction, as an order. Having spent a number of years doing FOIA and declassification, he needs to put that tweet into writing as an Executive Order. That move will make any bureaucratic ‘wiggling’ around avoiding the tweet as direct disobedience of an E.O.

And I fully concur with the President’s ordering the complete declassification and release, without any redactions of the documents in question.


15 posted on 10/16/2020 4:49:39 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Bratch

Plus, POTUS didn’t say, “Please.”


16 posted on 10/16/2020 4:52:41 PM PDT by kevao (BIBLICAL JESUS: Give your money to the poor. SOCIALIST JESUS: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: jersey117; littleharbour

I’ll defend the retention of AG Barr in that he is fighting against a deeply entrenched anti-Trump bureaucracy.

And I have cause to wonder if the President’s outbursts at Barr and others are intended toward the other and not AG Barr, but he is letting Barr know privately to keep doing his job; let me explain:

When I was an intel directorate NCOIC we had weekly meetings with the Command Sergeant Major, where he would pass on to us what was in the staff calls and other information. During the time I was one of 3 directorate NCOIC’s I received a phone call from him before our weekly meeting. He would say, “I’m going to raise the roof about my NCOICs not getting their jobs done, ignore what I’m saying, my target are the other two guys, your doing what you’re supposed to do, but I have to ‘blast’ the 3 of you.” My reply was, I understand, thank you.


17 posted on 10/16/2020 4:57:31 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: STE=Q
I don’t think a tweet — in the past tense—cuts it.

A verbal order in an admistrative chain of command is a lawful order. I authorized means not, I am authorizing. It means it's already done. Past tense. Done. No argument. Already.

18 posted on 10/16/2020 4:57:42 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: usurper

Most order from heads of departments [agencies] are verbal to their subordinates, actually. It is usually recorded for the record to codify it and preserve it for posterity, but it is a lawful order when stated, and to refuse it is as much insubordination in a civilian agency as it is in a military agency.

In fact, insubordination in the face of lawful direction is one case where a civil servant can be fired almost immediately and without question.


19 posted on 10/16/2020 5:01:06 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: aimhigh

And he asked Russia to find Hills emails.....BFD


20 posted on 10/16/2020 5:30:00 PM PDT by wardamneagle
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