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‘Secret’ ATF move could turn 3M to 4M gun owners into felons
www.washingtonexaminer.com ^ | October 09, 2020 08:49 AM | by Paul Bedard, Washington Secrets Columnist

Posted on 10/09/2020 8:21:41 AM PDT by Red Badger

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1 posted on 10/09/2020 8:21:41 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: marktwain

2A Ping!.................


2 posted on 10/09/2020 8:22:01 AM PDT by Red Badger (Sine Q-Anon.....................very............)
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To: PROCON

Ping !


3 posted on 10/09/2020 8:26:14 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: Red Badger

Can somebody drop that question for the President to address on Rush’s show today? (I don’t know enough technically to phrase one properly).


4 posted on 10/09/2020 8:27:47 AM PDT by alancarp (George Orwell was an optimist.)
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To: Red Badger

Atlas Shrugged:

“Did you really think we want those laws observed?” said Dr. Ferris. “We want them to be broken. You’d better get it straight that it’s not a bunch of boy scouts you’re up against... We’re after power and we mean it... There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that’s the system, Mr. Reardon, that’s the game, and once you understand it, you’ll be much easier to deal with.”


5 posted on 10/09/2020 8:28:48 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: Red Badger

They are changing an AR-15 pistol with a wrist support stock to a ‘short-barreled rifle’ which requires a BATF license.
Just ‘cuz they feel like it.


6 posted on 10/09/2020 8:28:59 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security! (Ironic, huh?))
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To: Red Badger

Trump has pissed me off with several unconstitutional gun orders.


7 posted on 10/09/2020 8:29:50 AM PDT by mylife (Opinions: $1, Today's Special: Half Baked, 50c)
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To: Red Badger

Yet another reason to vote for President Trump/Vice President Pence.


8 posted on 10/09/2020 8:29:50 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: Little Ray

Just like the bumpfire stock that Obamas ATF approved.


9 posted on 10/09/2020 8:31:21 AM PDT by mylife (Opinions: $1, Today's Special: Half Baked, 50c)
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To: Red Badger

“could alienate hardcore supporters”

Gee, let me think. Don’t vote for Trump and get who?


10 posted on 10/09/2020 8:32:06 AM PDT by antidemoncrat (Biden's)
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To: Red Badger

I have got a 3-D printer and the files for the basically worthless printed pistols. I could go to Home Depot and make a much more durable and safer “firearm” in much less time than it would take to print and put together the a printed pistol. But if you don’t embed a metal plate in the in your printed gun so that it can be detected by a metal detector you have created an illegal firearm and could get yourself in big trouble.


11 posted on 10/09/2020 8:32:49 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: spetznaz

Post #8, meet post #7.


12 posted on 10/09/2020 8:32:57 AM PDT by Laslo Fripp (The Sybil of Free Republic)
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To: Red Badger

I can’t help but think that this is yet another thing that deep state scumbags are trying to depress the Trump vote.

More and more I’m afraid that Biden is going to win the election, and that will be the end for the constitution and individual rights.

Mark


13 posted on 10/09/2020 8:33:16 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Little Ray

A couple of pieces of PVC pipe would work in a pinch.


14 posted on 10/09/2020 8:34:03 AM PDT by mylife (Opinions: $1, Today's Special: Half Baked, 50c)
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Why not an EO that says guns cant have sights?


15 posted on 10/09/2020 8:42:03 AM PDT by mylife (Opinions: $1, Today's Special: Half Baked, 50c)
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To: Little Ray
They are changing an AR-15 pistol with a wrist support stock to a ‘short-barreled rifle’ which requires a BATF license. Just ‘cuz they feel like it.

Just 'cuz they feel they effed-up in the first place when they allowed pistol braces and we drove a Mack Truck through their SBR loophole.

They tried to "correct" their perceived mistake in 2017 when they briefly ruled that anyone that shouldered a pistol brace was "redesigning" the firearm from a pistol to a SBR. (ATF Letter here.) That was quickly walked back because it was unenforceable.

Emboldened by their thus far successful reclassification of Bump Stocks as machine guns, they're now going after arm braces on pistols.

The whole point of the original 1934 NFA ban on SBRs and SBSs was because originally handguns were also supposed to be subject to the same then outrageous $200 tax. But at the last minute handguns were removed from the 1934 NFA bill, but SBRs and SBSs stayed in.

It is high time to repeal the entire NFA, or at minimum take out SBRs, SBSs, and silencers.

16 posted on 10/09/2020 8:43:16 AM PDT by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Red Badger

“...shall not be infringed”. Except by the government?


17 posted on 10/09/2020 8:45:27 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (Politicians are not born, they are excreted. Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: Red Badger

Congress is prohibited from passing ex post facto laws by clause 3 of Article I, Section 9 of the United States Constitution. I would think that this would extend to the executive branch (BATF) where they are making law (with punishments) with arbitrary regulations at their whim. The time may come soon that this type of executive regulatory lawmaking will be struck down by the judiciary.


18 posted on 10/09/2020 8:51:41 AM PDT by dmcnash (Back off! I'm a Scientist.)
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To: Red Badger

It would appear the Trump administration’s going about this in the same manner they effectively banned bump stocks with very little blowback from 2A groups and supporters.


19 posted on 10/09/2020 8:53:09 AM PDT by Izzatso
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To: mylife

Trump didn’t write this. Bathhouse Barry holdouts in the ATF.

Contrary to what many might think, the President cannot unilaterally fire swamp creatures. They have civil service protections that Congress gave them. They become entrenched and virtually untouchable.

That’s why there are so many “RESIST” folks that are thumbing their noses at the President.


20 posted on 10/09/2020 8:57:48 AM PDT by TexasGurl24
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