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Pence Victorious Over Harris and Page
Townhall.com ^ | October 9, 2020 | David Limbaugh

Posted on 10/09/2020 3:53:32 AM PDT by Kaslin

The conventional wisdom is that Susan Page was a fair moderator of the vice presidential debate. She wasn't, but Vice President Mike Pence won anyway.

Almost all of Page's questions were loaded against the Trump-Pence agenda, and hardly any were loaded against the Biden-Harris agenda. Though her baked-in assumptions incorporated the liberal narrative, Pence managed to overcome all of it.

Permit a sampling. In her COVID-19 question to Sen. Kamala Harris, Page stressed how much worse the virus is getting (debatable), which was an implied indictment of Trump's management of it. In her question to Pence, she charged that the U.S. death toll is proportionately higher than that of almost every other wealthy nation. Now, some will say this is no big deal, but an impartial moderator would offer no such editorial comments in either question and would instead invite Harris to comment on Trump's handling of it and how Biden would handle it differently. She would not suggest Trump has mismanaged the virus but ask Pence if he believes the administration has managed it well, and why.

Page accused Trump of conducting a "super-spreader event" in the Rose Garden without social distancing or masks and accusatorily asked Pence how he could expect Americans to follow safety guidelines when Trump didn't. It is not her job to attack. That is the debater's prerogative. She might fairly ask that question in an interview, but not a debate.

On the question of presidential disability, Page opined that voters were concerned over presidential disability because of the candidates' ages and said that this concern was sharpened because of Trump's recent bout with COVID. She didn't mention the extraordinarily humongous elephant in the room -- Joe Biden's mental decline -- even though Trump's COVID issue will most likely be short-term and Biden's will almost certainly progressively degenerate. The media's glaring omission of Biden's dementia throughout the course of this campaign, and again during this debate, underscores their obscene bias and cynical disregard for the very issue Page raised in this question: presidential disability. Besides, there are already constitutional procedures in place for presidential succession, so please give us a break from your feigned concern, madam.

Page's next infraction was particularly egregious, as she accused "Trump's doctors" of giving "misleading answers" to questions about his health, further pushing the media narrative that all human beings in Trump's orbit, including distinguished physicians at Walter Reed hospital, are tainted, and that these doctors are hiding something for some sinister purpose.

Page misleadingly framed her question about the economy in the worst possible light for Trump, emphasizing that 11 million jobs lost this year have not been replaced and adding the zinger that Latinos, blacks and women were hit hardest. She didn't mention how Trump's pre-COVID economy was spectacular or that these very minorities benefitted in particular. Nor did she mention that the current recovery is extraordinary, especially given the Democrats' efforts to perpetuate lockdowns. If she must editorialize, then let's have both sides. When she directed the economy question to Pence, she gratuitously editorialized that Trump had predicted a rapid recovery, "but the latest economic report shows that's not happening." She presented this highly debatable assertion as indisputable fact. She shouldn't have injected herself at all, but since she did, she should have been neutral -- not an ally of the Biden-Harris ticket.

On "climate change," Page noted that there have been increasing hurricanes in the South and record-setting wildfires in the west, before loading her question with the assumption that "man-made climate change" has caused both. These claims are ludicrous, in my opinion. But that's not the point, which is that it is not her job to make such assertions. Her real purpose in so framing the question was to trap Pence into rejecting the conventional wisdom of climate change in an effort to make him look like a science denier. In a follow-up, Page directly asked Pence whether he regards climate change as an existential threat. She might as well have said, "Well, do you, rube?" Note that she didn't ask Harris whether she believes in gender science or accepts the leftist pap that there are 71 genders.

While Page deserves credit for pointing out the inconsistency between Harris' and Biden's attempt to distance themselves from the Green New Deal and their support for it on their website, she didn't ask Harris any pointed questions about the quixotic provisions this program includes, its prohibitive costs and the undeniable truth that even if we were to implement all of its mandates, we wouldn't appreciably change global temperature by the end of this century.

Space limitations preclude further examples. But let me say that despite the deck being stacked against him, Pence managed to parry the accusations and keep the debate focused on substantive issues. He specifically contrasted Biden's agenda with Trump's agenda and Trump's record.

I disagree with the pundit consensus that this debate will make no difference. Pence focused the nation's attention on Biden's horrific plans for America, which is critical for a Trump victory. The media studiously shields Biden's agenda, and it was incalculably beneficial for Pence to highlight it. President Trump can build on this in the next debate. The more people exposed to Biden's dangerous and cockamamie ideas, the greater Trump's chances, which is precisely why Biden and Harris are hiding parts of their agenda and the media is abetting them.

Against 2-to-1 odds, Pence brought home a resounding victory.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2020preselection; mikepence; supremecourt; vicepresdebate

1 posted on 10/09/2020 3:53:32 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Susan Page writing Hilliary’s Biography!!! OMG!


2 posted on 10/09/2020 4:10:07 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Kaslin
I disagree with the pundit consensus that this debate will make no difference.

Concur. People who just don't care are not likely to watch. The people who tuned in were curious about the two VP candidates -- especially given any current thoughts that the guy at the top of the ticket might have one health problem or another. Pence, and the ticket he's on, came out looking a lot better than Harris and the ticket she's on. I saw this debate as a big win.

3 posted on 10/09/2020 4:12:21 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: Kaslin
One of the best critiques of the VP debate I have seen...The anti/never Trump media is an echo chamber that constantly resonates with BS from shills like Wallace and Page (frequently a guest “reporter” on the socialist PeeBS “News” Hour). Whatever the future holds, Trump/Pence have blown the lid off the leftist dominated, fake media. It's in the hands of the people now to act on this knife at the throat of the republic or to roll over and suffer the consequences of an ever deepening socialism.
4 posted on 10/09/2020 4:14:23 AM PDT by PerConPat (A politician is an animal that can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground--Mencken)
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HOORAY Mike!

Who’s “moderating” next Meygun machine-gun Kelly? Ask accusatory questions...attack/interrupt...attack/interrupt...attack interrupt...use the ATCs (Artificial Time Constraints) as your backup. PROGRAMMING...CONTROL. Who controls the “moderator”?

The medium is the message. - Marshall McLuhan

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=marshall+mcluhan&t=osx&ia=web

Here...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoCrx0scCkM


5 posted on 10/09/2020 4:14:41 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Kaslin

Her last question on whether Trump would allow a smooth transition of power was definitely loaded. I thought Pence remarks were great but I would have thrown in the illegal ballots, ballot boxes, and fraudulent voting that is happening and being ignored by the media.


6 posted on 10/09/2020 4:17:41 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: ClearCase_guy

As I said on another thread, 2020 is like no other election year. Conventional wisdom doesn’t necessarily apply.

Biden is clearly a walking corpse, and warranted or not, there are questions about Trump’s health given the covid scare.

It’s clear that the VP choice is far more important this year than ever before.


7 posted on 10/09/2020 4:23:34 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (When seconds count, social workers are days away.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I did not watch, but the reason is that out of habit I always get up early, so if I had watched I would have fallen asleep and missed the debate anyway.


8 posted on 10/09/2020 4:23:42 AM PDT by Kaslin
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Did Vice PSYCHOPATH wanna b...comma la EVER answer the F’n question? She doesn’t have to. EVER. She’s protected.

2020 see clearly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRMf3wKBCPo

The PSYCHOPATH puppet and his Kamel DESERVE ZERO electoral votes.

November 3, 2020

Use your sight, use your mind, vote.


9 posted on 10/09/2020 4:24:02 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Kaslin

The selection of Page and all of the other Leftist/Liberal “moderators” by the “non-partisan” POTUS Debate Commission is a perfect demonstration of the inherent bias in the big MEDIA...

The Commission really thinks that someone like Page is a fair-minded, mainstream, objective pundit...

Page and the others have a clear agenda...to help Sleepy Joe win by focussing on Democrat-favorable topics and by slanting the questions with straw-men hits on DJT...

A biased moderator axes...

‘VP Biden, how to you feel about the Trump administration’s leadership in killing over 200,000 Americans?’ Exaggerated question...and, shared with the Biden campaign before the debate...

A fair moderator axes...

‘VP Biden, if elected, what are your specific plans for dealing with the remaining obstacles of Covid-19?’...straightforward and expected by both candidates...

Something must be done about this Commission...


10 posted on 10/09/2020 4:29:59 AM PDT by MCEscherHammer
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micro coup...micro aggression...I didn’t come here to be lectured by Pence.


11 posted on 10/09/2020 4:37:19 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: MCEscherHammer
A fair moderator ?

Don't you mean: A fair moderator asks?

12 posted on 10/09/2020 4:45:40 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I watched the debate, and the moderate let Harris get away with droning on and on, way over the 30 seconds allocated for a reply toward the end. Pence was treated very differently and was in fact lectured by the moderator as well as being continually interrupted by her when he ran over. That was a clear and easily quantifiable case of bias against Pence.


13 posted on 10/09/2020 4:47:26 AM PDT by BlackAdderess (The Democratic party is between The Rock and a sanctimonious place)
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for oppo & proppo...win...Pence was the aggressor...INSISTING that I comma la answer a Q?...The nerve...HOW DARE YOU!

Make them pronounce my name correctly media. The sucks & cucks get in line to lick her heels. Kamel. F’n PSYCHOPATH.


14 posted on 10/09/2020 4:50:01 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Kaslin

The 210,000 death number is inflated,we don’t know how many died with comorbidities, the hospitals are incentavised with 28 hundred dollars if the deaths are listed as civic.
Also how many thousands died in New York when infected people were put in nursing homes infecting them.


15 posted on 10/09/2020 5:05:16 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: ballplayer
They are indeed inflated, because the count people that had died in traffic accidents which had nothing to do with the virus at all.

I read they do that because they get more money.

16 posted on 10/09/2020 5:10:47 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I hate to say it, but I don’t care.

As long as Republicans continue agreeing to allow unfair and biased liberal moderators we need to stop complaining. Everyone has known about moderators who clearly put their finger on the scale, and yet Republicans keep agreeing to the format. Did Candy Crowley not happen? This has been going at each and every debate going back to Reagan and for some inexplicable reason Republicans are incapable or unwilling to demand fairness. I simply don’t understand. Exactly who are the Republicans responsible for these debate negotiations?

Stop complaining. Bring the debate negotiators out of the darkness. Tell us who they are and hold them directly accountable for continually agreeing to this madness. There is absolutely no excuse for getting hosed at every single debate forum going back to Reagan.


17 posted on 10/09/2020 5:16:08 AM PDT by Obadiah
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When VEEP was rationally answering a Q he was cut off at the mouth...ZUCKERBERG-LIKE.


18 posted on 10/09/2020 5:33:15 AM PDT by PGalt
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Haven’t you heard, it’s a battle of word? - Pink Floyd

We are in CIVIL war right now with the UNCIVIL...there’s good, bad, ugly, evil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1PfrmCGFnk


19 posted on 10/09/2020 5:48:47 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Kaslin; All

MAGAMIKEKAG


20 posted on 10/09/2020 6:01:05 AM PDT by PGalt
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