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Beware a filibuster-free Senate:
The changes they would bring could produce a very different country than the one we see today.
StarTribune ^
| 10-6-2020
| John R. Lott, Jr.
Posted on 10/07/2020 9:54:32 AM PDT by VictimsRightsPro2a
For months, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris and Senate Democrats have talked about eliminating the filibuster. With Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburgs death, some Senators have said they must get rid of the filibuster so that they can pack the Supreme Court.
Even if not used to pack the Supreme Court, eliminating the filibuster would radically transform the Senate and our country.
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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: california; cprc; democrats; filibuster; india; jamaica; johnlott; kamalaharris
To: VictimsRightsPro2a
Used to filibuster was for emergencies only - Democrats made it an everyday thing.
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posted on
10/07/2020 9:56:38 AM PDT
by
\/\/ayne
(I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper)
To: VictimsRightsPro2a
Remember how Democrats rammed through Obamacare at 7AM on Christmas Eve 2009 when they had a fillibuster-proof majority?
That would be every single Democrat proposal if they had the majority in the Senate with no fillibuster.
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posted on
10/07/2020 10:04:31 AM PDT
by
Yo-Yo
( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
To: VictimsRightsPro2a
For months, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris and Senate Democrats have talked about eliminating the filibuster.
Why has McConnell waited for Democrats to do it? The Democrats are obviously serious. If Republicans retain the Senate and Trump wins re-election, take the Democrats up on their threats - eliminate the filibuster and pack the SC with 6 new young, ultra-conservative justices, along with the inevitable replacements for Breyer and Thomas. Let the liberals live with an 11-4 conservative majority for the next 40 years.
To: \/\/ayne
And so we no longer get yearly budget bills.
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posted on
10/07/2020 10:14:36 AM PDT
by
pas
To: AnotherUnixGeek
> If Republicans retain the Senate and Trump wins re-election, take the Democrats up on their threats - eliminate the filibuster and pack the SC <
Eventually the Ds will be back in power. So I would instead prefer constitutional amendments that would protect the filibuster and set the number of SC justices at nine.
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posted on
10/07/2020 10:19:31 AM PDT
by
Leaning Right
(I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
To: VictimsRightsPro2a
The Senate has way too much power, time to seriously look at repealing the 17th amendment again and/or a one term limit.
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posted on
10/07/2020 10:21:16 AM PDT
by
SecondAmendment
(This just proves my latest theory ... LEFTISTS RUIN EVERYTHING)
To: Leaning Right
Eventually the Ds will be back in power. So I would instead prefer constitutional amendments that would protect the filibuster and set the number of SC justices at nine.
Yes, they will and they will pack the court - they've told us they intend to. I'd prefer a constitutional amendment limiting the SC to nine members too - but given how difficult it is to amend the Constitution and given that too many states are in Democrat hands, conservatives need to play the game before they get played.
To: Yo-Yo; VictimsRightsPro2a
Yo-Yo :" Remember how Democrats rammed through Obamacare at 7AM on Christmas Eve 2009 when they had a fillibuster-proof majority?
That would be every single Democrat proposal if they had the majority in the Senate with no fillibuster."
Exactly true !
The fillibuster protects minority rights, by allowing input and discussion,
and the Dems have already demonstrated that they ignore minority rights.
Who was it that said :" You have to pass it,..in order to find out what's in it " ? Case in point !
The same thing happened in New York State with ramming of the SAFE Act of 2013, where the bill was hidden by the Governor;
it wasn't even read by the Dems or Repubs politicians until the minority in the House held it up by fillibuster.
To: AnotherUnixGeek
Why has McConnell waited for Democrats to do it? My guess is that he never had the votes within the caucus to get rid of it.
To: VictimsRightsPro2a
It may also be the case that Schumer won’t have the voters either, even if they’re in the majority. Manchin may not vote for it, and some old-timers like Feinstein might not either.
To: AnotherUnixGeek
One on my favorite lines from the movie Open Range, " Most time, a man will tell you his bad intentions if you listen, let yourself hear."
DemonRats have been telling us for decades but we wouldn't hear.
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posted on
10/07/2020 10:56:06 AM PDT
by
D Rider
To: Yo-Yo
they rammed it through past midnight
and yes i remember, i was up watching
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posted on
10/07/2020 11:28:03 AM PDT
by
Secret Agent Man
(Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
To: Secret Agent Man
Forgive me if I’m mistaken, but I think it was the House that rammed it through in the middle of the night. The Senate passed it on Christmas Eve.
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posted on
10/07/2020 12:15:48 PM PDT
by
Yo-Yo
( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
To: VictimsRightsPro2a
B$. It is only a problem if the Dems win the Senate and the White House and if that happens it won't matter we are done anyway.
Time the majority party is held responsible to carry out the wishes of those who elected them.
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posted on
10/07/2020 1:16:23 PM PDT
by
itsahoot
(The ability to read auto correct is necessary to read my posts understanding them is another matter.)
To: Yo-Yo
yeah that could be what i am remembering...
:)
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posted on
10/07/2020 1:56:10 PM PDT
by
Secret Agent Man
(Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
To: VictimsRightsPro2a
There’s a very simple method for fixing the filibuster. Just do it. If no one wants to get up and start talking, then start the vote. Quit doing all this bullshit about killing bills just because they don’t have a filibuster-proof majority.
Make the final call for comments, and when no one gets up to filibuster, then close discussion and open the vote.
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