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To: Williams

I hate to say this, but every single “rock ribbed Republican” I’ve talked with about the debate - and that’s quite a few people - think Trump totally blew it on Tuesday and came across way too hard and aggressive. I “get” that Freepers love the combative, take no ‘stuff’ from the media POTUS, but as I’ve been saying since pretty much the start of the campaign - POTUS needs to win the votes of the people outside of his base and outside of FR ALSO to win. And for the most part, the main thing he achieved on Tuesday was to get the base riled up - but we’re ALREADY riled up and “get” what’s at stake in this election. Unfortunately, he only further alienated “suburban women”, seniors, and those lower information voters who DON’T “get” what is at stake in this election.

Trump rarely if ever seems to recognize when he’s wrong on something. And this time, his approach to the debate and the very obvious lack of prep led to him blowing perhaps the best opportunity he had to sway the undecideds and independents.

Sadly, I ALMOST believe these new polls, although I do realize the usual games (surveying “Republicans” in deep blue areas, undersampling independents, etc, for example) have been played as they always are. We’re realistically way behind with many who don’t follow politics as closely as all of us here do, and it’s time Trump starts to realize that he needs more than the base and FR to win..


69 posted on 10/04/2020 7:09:48 AM PDT by jstolzen
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To: jstolzen

Most presidents lose the first debate, badly.

They then realize and rally next time. IF they listen.

I bet most of us here could have written Trump’s debate and given him a home run. But we can’t.


80 posted on 10/04/2020 7:13:43 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: jstolzen
every single “rock ribbed Republican” I’ve talked with about the debate - and that’s quite a few people - think Trump totally blew it on Tuesday and came across way too hard and aggressive.

You just outed yourself, troll-boi.

That debate WON Trump the election. Some of the Swampies in his inner circle counseled him to go soft and statesman like this close to the vote; Biden had either electronic assistance, or the questions in advance, or both; and Wall-Ass was going to sandbag Drumpf.

The post-debate analysis stories were already written -- "Biden the Comeback Kid" / "Biden pummels helplessly over-his-head Drumpf" and the like.

Pure lies and projection.

Trump tried being nice for the first few minutes, then he saw what was up when Biden interrupted him.

So he ran INTO the ambush, disrupting it and rendering the follow-up propaganda pieces worthless.

Note the left was NOT crowing about GLORIOUS COMMUNIST, I mean, Biden's victory. Instead they were calling for rule changes or an end to the debates.

You are so full of crap it literally staggers the human mind.

185 posted on 10/04/2020 8:35:17 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: jstolzen

Well said


200 posted on 10/04/2020 8:54:53 AM PDT by pghbjugop
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To: jstolzen

...“Republicans” in deep blue areas...

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Have seen many opinions pieces from insiders blaming the neo-con RINOs for most of the lawfare and negative campaigning.

They are not just poll fodder.


255 posted on 10/04/2020 2:01:08 PM PDT by reformedliberal (Make yourself less available.)
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