[grey_whiskers]

"Voters" say. I notice you were careful not to cite a source on that. And you went out of your way NOT to emphasize this, either: The vast majority — 73 percent — say the debate made no difference in how they’d vote.

(That's assuming the rigged sample in any way indicates actual voters, troll-boi.)

[nathanbedford]

This poll was offered to refute your assertions that Trump won the debate, not in support of any notion that the debate will decide the election. I never asserted that but I do assert the importance of the poll given Trump's dilemma.

My position has always been that as far as we know Trump is behind in the battleground states, therefore it was incumbent on him during the debate to win, that is, to turn the polls around and win votes.

Whatever you think of this poll, at least it is not a flash poll which proved as I predicted to be a flash in the pan, and it shows clearly that Trump did not win the debate and for some of the reasons I cited in our discussion.

Be advised that I originally gave you a heads up for the whole poll which you cavalierly disregarded with ROFL.

I am not laughing, the campaign is in real trouble. The candidate is unable to campaign, his campaign manager is sick, his campaign digital manager is in the loony bin, the polls are against him.