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The Cleveland Brawl: First Presidential Debate Was a Cage Fight
American Thinker.com ^ | September 30, 2020 | Janice Shaw Crouse

Posted on 09/30/2020 7:43:14 AM PDT by Kaslin

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Before the first presidential debate, the consensus was that it would be a consequential event — pundits said, "This debate matters; this election matters." Others talked about it being a "big deal" and a "historic moment." Obviously, both candidates approached the debate knowing the significance of their performances. Both were ready, even raring, to go!

Trump needed to defend his record and show strength; he did that. Biden needed to show that he had the mental ability to make sense and stand up for 90 minutes; he did that. In that sense, the debate was a draw. But Trump succeeded in keeping Biden off balance; clearly, Biden got rattled and flustered. Biden has a reputation for nasty responses when he's challenged. He certainly cemented that reputation in the first debate. The most memorable lines of the night were Biden at his nastiest: "Will you shut up, man?" and "Keep yapping, man!" He also accused Trump of "ranting" and being "racist." In utter frustration and exasperation at one point, Biden exclaimed, "It's hard to get a word in with this clown." These are new lows for someone who at one point in the debate responded to Trump's taunt, "This is so unpresidential!"

This was not the Lincoln-Douglas debates. It was more like mud-wrestling!

In terms of substance, Biden echoed the old-fashioned political rhetoric full of generalities, empathetic sentiments, and talk about needing to "bring everybody together." He was well coached and able to repeat the memorized lines. Trump was a free-wheeling force of nature and was on the offense throughout the whole debate. His goal seemed to be getting Biden angry and off-script.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: chriswallace; debate; joebiden; presidenttrump
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1 posted on 09/30/2020 7:43:14 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

President Trump is a professional builder. He knows how to plan, organize, lead and build things.

Joe Biden is a professional heckler. He knows how to heckle.

Which one makes a better President?


2 posted on 09/30/2020 7:50:01 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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To: Kaslin

The one thing I didnt agree with was Trump bringing up Hunter and drugs. Stick to being unqualified and Burisma.


3 posted on 09/30/2020 7:55:12 AM PDT by gcparent (Justice Brett Kavanaugh)
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To: Kaslin

You’re a poopy head. Nah ah, you’re a poopy head. I know you are, but what am I. For me it was unwatchable after the first 2 or 3 minutes.


4 posted on 09/30/2020 7:56:36 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory ((ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government))
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To: showme_the_Glory

It was like a scene out of Idiocracy.

“Yeah, I got a solution. You’re a dick! South Carolina, what’s up!”


5 posted on 09/30/2020 7:57:29 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator
"That's what I thought!..."


6 posted on 09/30/2020 8:00:33 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: Kaslin

7 posted on 09/30/2020 8:01:45 AM PDT by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Kaslin

Enjoy!:)

https://twitter.com/Apoctoz/status/1311166481552433153


8 posted on 09/30/2020 8:05:03 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (3 NOV 2020! VOTE JOBS! NOT RIOTING BLM/ANTIFA/DEM/MOBS! /POLICE FOR US! NOT JUST FOR THE ELITE!)
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To: Kaslin

What I kept hearing right after the debate, and the morning after, is that, the debate was a brawl and people could not make out anything regarding the issues and the positions of debaters on those issues.

But, there were plenty of issues discussed, and if analysts wished to concentrate on what was said instead of the brawl aspect, then the positions of the debaters should come across pretty clearly.

On the issues, Trump was much stronger and Biden was mostly just shaking his head and calling the president a liar and a clown and, basically, just trying to make the democrat talking points as his arguments.

Analysts, including those on FOX, are missing the bigger points and concentrating on the brawl aspect of the debate.


9 posted on 09/30/2020 8:07:33 AM PDT by adorno
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To: adorno

People don’t care about issues anymore.

Politics has turned into a sport. It’s all about “Yay, Team!”

This didn’t start with Trump.


10 posted on 09/30/2020 8:08:38 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Kaslin
Biden made wild statements when he was flustered. He claimed, "The Democratic Party is me!" When pressed about why he didn't do something about the riots, violence, and looting, he brushed it off with "I'm not in public office."

Just another major weak confused response from Biden, the list is long. Biden provided all kinds of ammo, he clearly got skunked, along with Wallace.

11 posted on 09/30/2020 8:09:11 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (FILL THE SEAT)
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To: gcparent

Biden does not get to tell trump he is more empathetic to the military because of his son -beau-when hunter Abused the military I dare say to get kicked out of the military as a senator’s son is so rare it has never been done


12 posted on 09/30/2020 8:13:18 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Kaslin

What a ridiculous format: 2 min. 2 min then free for all. Trump came out on top of the two - the champ! No question. Pow! Zap! Plonk!


13 posted on 09/30/2020 8:13:43 AM PDT by mom.mom (...our flag was still there.)
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To: Kaslin

I have never seen a President treated with such disrespect as Biden treated Trump. Can you imagine the MSM if someone told Obama to SHUT UP , or called him a CLOWN , ... etc,.
I don’t recall OBAMA ever being in a debate.

Joe Biden told so many LIES and UNTRUTHS in the Debate that I am convinced ..... JOE BIDEN is the ANTICHRIST!

What a pitiful person that refuse to take a Drug Test. The only people that do that, are people that are hiding their addiction to illegal drugs. JOE BIDEN IS UN FIT For DUTY!


14 posted on 09/30/2020 8:14:44 AM PDT by EnglishOnly (eeWFight all out to win OR get out now. .)
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To: Kaslin

https://www.headlineoftheday.com/2020/09/29/who-won-the-first-2020-presidential-debate/


15 posted on 09/30/2020 8:14:53 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (This Space For Rant)
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To: Yo-Yo

I like the background music.


16 posted on 09/30/2020 8:17:25 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (This Space For Rant)
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To: blueunicorn6
"President Trump is a professional builder. He knows how to plan, organize, lead and build things."

That is an important observation. The building profession is characterized by a "get it done" attitude. Trump has this. He's a fighter. We need a fighter.
17 posted on 09/30/2020 8:18:38 AM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt
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To: 1Old Pro
How do you lose a debate? You stand there deer-in-the-headlights when you are asked a question. (Support from Law enforcement)
You contradict yourself. (support for the Green New Deal)
Resort to name calling and talking points.
Refusal to answer critical questions. (packing the Supreme Court)
Not being able to embrace reality (Antifa)

Add to that the fact that Chris Wallace had to fight Joe Biden's battles...
Yeah, Joe Biden lost. Bigly.

18 posted on 09/30/2020 8:22:11 AM PDT by fhayek
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To: EnglishOnly
I did a search and found that he debated McCain.
I don't recall though if I watched it or not, but my mind was right away made up as soon as I heard his voice which turned me completely off.

Besides I have never voted for a Dem and will never vote for one.

19 posted on 09/30/2020 8:26:42 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: blueunicorn6

D.J.T of course, who else?


20 posted on 09/30/2020 8:28:25 AM PDT by Kaslin
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