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To: grey_whiskers
It does not take a troll to see that Trump is getting killed, he is playing to every negative stereotype while Biden is exceeding expectations. Trump has not made a coherent concise point rather he has engaged in generalities and incoherent sentences while Biden has come off as far more articulate.

Trump has appeared petulant and defensive while Biden has appeared oh so reasonable.

The point of the debate is not to throw raw meat to the base like us but to win over independents and unpersuaded voters. Biden is winning that game tonight and doing so while he exceeds expectations.

Calling the bearer of bad news troll or otherwise killing the messenger doesn't change the facts. Trump should have prepared for this debate.


1,898 posted on 09/29/2020 6:46:45 PM PDT by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

Whatever


1,940 posted on 09/29/2020 6:48:31 PM PDT by cowboyusa (America Cowboy Up)
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To: nathanbedford

This is the way Trump is. People who hate trump were never going to love him after this. I like him more right now than I did before the debate.


1,943 posted on 09/29/2020 6:48:37 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: nathanbedford

It does not take a troll to see that Trump is getting killed, he is playing to every negative stereotype while Biden is exceeding expectations. Trump has not made a coherent concise point rather he has engaged in generalities and incoherent sentences while Biden has come off as far more articulate.

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Bullshit.


1,944 posted on 09/29/2020 6:48:42 PM PDT by Pravious
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To: nathanbedford

Dont you have a poll thread to post doom? You’re always posting negative shit


1,949 posted on 09/29/2020 6:48:47 PM PDT by snarkytart (The media reads teleprompters for a living and reiterates Dem talking points, they are ignorant.)
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To: nathanbedford
Not sure I agree that the base will see it that way, though the MSM certainly will report it that way.

Still, I can see the Biden campaign using this debate to justify canceling the next two.

-PJ

1,981 posted on 09/29/2020 6:49:54 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Freedom of the press is the People's right to publish, not CNN's right to the 1st question.)
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To: nathanbedford

You must be watching a different debate than I am.


2,009 posted on 09/29/2020 6:50:50 PM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: nathanbedford

I can agree to a point Nathan....but Trump’s having to defend himself to Wallace as well. Neither are doing as well as expected.


2,010 posted on 09/29/2020 6:50:50 PM PDT by caww (When a person becomes a Christian the assurance of truth becomes reality.....)
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To: nathanbedford

I’m watching the same commentary from a website of people who were former Hillary supporters giving the exact opposite opinion.


2,067 posted on 09/29/2020 6:53:01 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: nathanbedford

You are wrong. Trump is being Trump and that is a bare knuckle brawler. It’s what the country voted for and what the country will vote for again. Even if Trump is doing poorly with undecideds, then so what by now there not enough of them left to make a dent in the electoral college.

Trump gets another 4 years and we get MAGA.


2,107 posted on 09/29/2020 6:54:25 PM PDT by navymom1
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To: nathanbedford

Yes, totally agree. Trumps weakness is his ego and Biden got right under that, and Trump is coming across as a bully which is why a lot of people hate him. This is turning into a disaster, I can’t believe it.


2,125 posted on 09/29/2020 6:54:46 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary Clinton remains free equal justice under the law will never exist in the USA)
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To: nathanbedford
It does not take a troll to see that Trump is getting killed...

Unfortunately, I would have to agree that Trump is doing poorly in this "debate". He comes off as frustrated and angry while Biden appears to be calm and self-assured.

The questions are of course total hard-balls for Trump, and softballs for Biden. The microphone is set to noticeably lower levels on The Trump podium, so Biden can talk over Trump, but not the reverse. And the "moderator" keeps arguing with Trump and taking over him.

I was hoping for a Biden meltdown, but that does not look like it is happening.

Whatever that drug cocktail was that they have Biden is working really well.

2,126 posted on 09/29/2020 6:54:47 PM PDT by flamberge (The wheels keep turning)
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To: nathanbedford

Hey fellow reb, agreed.

Despite all the worship, Trump is clearly no Reagan.

He will win over no undecideds/independents.


2,155 posted on 09/29/2020 6:56:02 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs. I)
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To: nathanbedford

Biden has been mumbling and stumbling; the moderator has corrected him on answering a different question than the one asked. He has had to be bailed out repeatedly by the far-left moderator.

Trump has both the leftists rattled, and it shows.

Did you hear the B-52 carpet bombing of Slow Joe over “Law Enforcement” ?

Maybe you should stay in Europe, far far away from the God Emperor, where your pwecious fweeings can be safe.


2,188 posted on 09/29/2020 6:57:46 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: nathanbedford

Piss off!!!!!!! Trump is doing fine.


2,232 posted on 09/29/2020 6:59:12 PM PDT by ohioman
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To: nathanbedford

“It does not take a troll to see that Trump is getting killed, he is playing to every negative stereotype while Biden is exceeding expectations. Trump has not made a coherent concise point rather he has engaged in generalities and incoherent sentences while Biden has come off as far more articulate.”

I generally agree — thus far. However Trump is on a roll now with his law enforcement points and is gaining traction. Well done President Trump. He is gaining some momentum. Now Biden stuttering on law enforcement. Maybe the meds are wearing off.

Biden has been winning points because of low expectations. Whatever points Trump is losing he is losing based on his interrupting debating style.

Now sure either side is reaching many undecideds.

Trump throws Biden a softball — are you in favor of law and order? Better to ask specific questions.

Biden — “you wouldn’t know a suburb unless you made a wrong turn?” Got to hand it to him — that was pretty good.


2,359 posted on 09/29/2020 7:05:26 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: nathanbedford

Hey there, I remember your over the top disdain for Trump.
And love for Cruz.
Forgive me if I don’t take your analysis as helpful.


2,475 posted on 09/29/2020 7:09:37 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: nathanbedford

I don’t think anyone won that mess... I can’t imagine anyone who was undecided watched that for more than 10 minutes...


3,393 posted on 09/29/2020 7:48:48 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: nathanbedford

I’ve been worried all week that Trump is running around doing rallies and running the country and getting those 15 minute covid tests ready and so so busy and not rested or prepared, while Biden has doing nothing but rest and prepare.

Rest is important for all of us.


4,135 posted on 09/29/2020 9:48:22 PM PDT by olivia3boys
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