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Why You Should Stop Using Other People’s iPhone Cables (Wow)
Forbes ^ | A few days ago | Zak Doffman

Posted on 09/22/2020 4:37:11 PM PDT by cba123

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To: SanchoP
Does he get to beat the slaves or is he relegated to merely a spectator role? Inquiring minds want to know.

Don’t ask him, he has no clue what he’s talking about.

41 posted on 09/22/2020 10:30:46 PM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplophobe bigot!)
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To: Swordmaker

Wow, that must be the first time you have not rebutted or ridiculed a security article! Now I’m worried!


42 posted on 09/22/2020 10:45:08 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom ("And oft conducted by historic truth, We tread the long extent of backward time.")
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To: proxy_user

That was my first thought, too.


43 posted on 09/22/2020 10:45:41 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom ("And oft conducted by historic truth, We tread the long extent of backward time.")
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To: VanShuyten

“Your own charger” — bought on Amazon or at the 7-11 and it comes complete with built-in theft tech.


44 posted on 09/22/2020 10:46:55 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom ("And oft conducted by historic truth, We tread the long extent of backward time.")
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To: gnarledmaw
Do you remember your mother running the vaccuum on one side of the house and the TV scrambling on the other side? Was that interference signal only transmitted through the air?

Back then, with cheap TVs, it could be both. No low pass filters on the power supplies allowed motor noise from the brushes on the AC vacuum motor to go through the power line into the set, putting static on the cheap electronics in the set. If you were getting your signal with rabbit ears, the electrical coils in the vacuum could disrupt the signal if the station was distant or particularly weak, adding static. That field could also pick up noise from the house wiring. More noise. You could even get noise from your car’s spark and ignition. Or a passing car. . . Even a human body could shield those pathetic antennas or act as wave guides to strengthen the signal by picking up a greater signal. I recall we could get the Reno Nevada TV station so I could watch Science Fiction Theater in our back bedroom with rabbit ears IF I could persuade my sister to stand like a ballerina with one leg extended on a hassock, and both arms in a circle above her head between the antenna and the direction to Reno. . . I could get a ghostly, grainy picture with sound as long as she held that pose. But for some reason, she would do it for more than about five minutes. Sisters! She’d go play with her dolls and all I’d get was a screen of snow!

I could get a perfect picture and sound on the living room TV but that required using the Tennarotor, turning the big TV antenna on its 50foot mast towards Reno. . . and Dad did like that because turning it back to that exact sweet spot that got the football games from our three local channels plus the ones in the San Francisco Bay Area, PLUS in San Jose, AND could still pull in Channel 12 (?) from Chico could take him an hour of fiddling and wishing he was a swearing man... I never heard him swear... or a drinking man. He had only one drink in his life, and that was to toast my sister’s divorce from her first husband. Moving that Tennarotor was easy, stopping it when you wanted to was impossible! The damn control had a built in random delay between when you punched stop and when it s decided to stop. So I didn’t dare turn it to Reno.

45 posted on 09/22/2020 10:54:01 PM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplophobe bigot!)
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To: cba123
ּBeyond this, if you look at this, it is designed to capture serial keyboard data, not an encrypted data stream or even approach accessing a device with defenses like an iPhone. This is a bit of a hoax. The tech is real but the extension of this tech to do what the FBI needs super crackers to do is stupid. If it was that easy, they would do this all of the time.
46 posted on 09/22/2020 11:03:09 PM PDT by dalight
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To: freedumb2003
If you need to check if your cable is Genuine Apple, check the price. If it is 5 times more than a comparable cable for any other manufacturer, it is Genuine Apple.

Uh, no. A genuine Apple Lightning cable on Amazon is $9.99. Third-party certified for Apple cables run about $5.99 to $12.99. You CAN buy cheaper ones, but they’re not certified by Apple and generally do not have the little computers in them that work with the devices to assure they know what kind of device they’re connected to, don’t overcharge, overheat, catch fire, etc. Apple Lightning cables are not dumb cables. They are designed to connect to a multitude of devices and communicate with them. If it’s a camera, then it does different things than if it’s a charger. It can connect to a 30" 5K monitor and transfer images at 60 frames per second. The little computer inside dedicates more connections to that task. . . and if it’s an Apple monitor, it can power it too. Try that with your $2 cable.

47 posted on 09/22/2020 11:05:10 PM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplophobe bigot!)
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To: cba123

But what if you wear a mask?


48 posted on 09/22/2020 11:07:13 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?my)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Wow, that must be the first time you have not rebutted or ridiculed a security article! Now I’m worried!

This one seems to be based in some legitimate technological foundation that could work. The new iPhone 12 will be using USB-C thunderbolt tech connection ports so for new buyers, the level of security is much higher. But for older Lightning connected iOS device users, yeah, there is a vulnerability inherent in the original Intel design that can’t be patch around. Software can watch for it, but it’s like a Trojan. You can’t protect users from doing something stupid, like using a malicious charging cable.

I was hoping Apple would find away around Intel’s flaw. So far, no joy. So the best thing now that it’s in the wild is to warn users as this Forbes article is doing. There’s been similar hijackers out there for Android for years. They just couldn’t work on iOS devices until now.

As the article pointed out, this is not a General problem. It will be a targeted attack looking for specific persons. It’s not a huge worry. I’d be suspicious if my charging cable or charger got stolen on a trip and someone offered me a loaner.

Better option pick a random store and buy replacements on your own on the spur of the moment unless you can get to an Apple store.

49 posted on 09/22/2020 11:25:32 PM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplophobe bigot!)
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To: Swordmaker; PLMerite
Don’t ask him, he has no clue what he’s talking about.

Australian Strategic Policy Institute

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PLMerite knows exactly what he's talking about.

50 posted on 09/23/2020 12:46:29 AM PDT by SanchoP
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To: Swordmaker

Methinks the fanboi doth protest too much.


51 posted on 09/23/2020 3:23:45 AM PDT by freedumb2003 ("Do not mistake activity for achievement." - John Wooden)
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To: MayflowerMadam
The phone isn't being hacked. It's a rubber ducky computer hack. They want you to believe the phone is being hacked but it's not.

The only way the computer (usually laptop) is hacked is charging the phone from a computer. Plugging in the cable to the computer hacks the computer.

52 posted on 09/23/2020 3:38:09 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: cba123
What if your charger and cord that is iPhone died after use. Is it best to still go to an 🍎 Apple Store or to the Apple website?
53 posted on 09/23/2020 3:44:38 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Swordmaker
The phone isn't being hacked. It's a rubber ducky attacker on the computer when the usb end is plugged into a laptop. I'm not sure of the efficacy of rubby ducky attacks on MacOS Those are automated HID attack from a inside a cable masquerading as a plain cable which have been around for 10 years. In this case the HID attack is remote-controlled through wifi.

The important point is no phone is being hacked. All of the stupid videos show the phone attacking the laptop wirelessly. The cable has wifi plus the HID driver in it.

54 posted on 09/23/2020 3:46:20 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
That's because the iPhone isn't being attacked.
55 posted on 09/23/2020 3:47:18 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: Swordmaker
This one seems to be based in some legitimate technological foundation that could work.

It's not. The lightning end is doing nothing but charging the iPhone.

56 posted on 09/23/2020 3:49:18 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: cba123

What if they’re all like that? Even the ones you buy?


57 posted on 09/23/2020 4:37:11 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: cba123

Especially when visiting countries with bad “records”...


58 posted on 09/23/2020 5:24:22 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: cba123

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59 posted on 09/23/2020 6:44:41 AM PDT by redinIllinois (Pro-life, accountant, gun-totin' Grandma - multi issue voter)
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To: rarestia

I have some cables that use magnetic connectors. They are data only. Can’t use them for anything at all but charging. Really nice, since the connector ends are swappable. I have a tiny box of various connectors, and one cable for multiple devices. Nice. (unless you want to charge a bunch of things at once.)


60 posted on 09/23/2020 7:36:56 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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