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Trump blames "blue states" for high coronavirus cases in U.S. (barf)
Axios ^ | September 17, 2020 | Jacob Knutson

Posted on 09/17/2020 1:23:38 PM PDT by gattaca

President Trump said in a press conference Wednesday that the U.S. coronavirus death toll is "very low ... if you take the blue states out," while defending the nation's response to the pandemic compared to other countries around the world.

Why it matters: Of the top five states with the largest death tolls from the virus, three have Democratic governors, suggesting there is little relation between the spread of the virus and the political parties of state leaders.

Of note: It is unclear precisely what Trump's definition of a "blue state" is, nor did he offer specifics to back up his claim that blue states managed the virus at all differently from red states.

Trump has long targeted "Democrat-run" cities. What he's saying: "If you take the blue states out," he continued, "we're at a level that I don't think anybody in the world would be at. We're really at a very low level, but some of the states — they were blue states, and blue-state management."

He then went after states' reopening strategies, saying: "By the way, we'd recommend they open up their states. It's hurting people far more than the disease itself." The other side: "Trump continues to politicize the coronavirus," the Democratic National Committee tweeted. "COVID isn't a red state or blue state issue. 9 of the 10 states with the most infections per capita have Republican governors. This virus has impacted all Americans."

The big picture: New York (D), New Jersey (D), Texas (R), California (D) and Florida (R) have to date reported the highest number of deaths from the virus in the U.S., according to Johns Hopkins University.

These are the states with the largest populations in the country. "But red states and battlegrounds, such as Louisiana, Mississippi, Arizona and Michigan were also in the top ten," USA notes. Meanwhile, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) announced last week that the state's coronavirus infection rate has remained below 1% for 30 days and COVID-19 hospitalizations have dropped to 410 — the lowest since March 16. The state, once a coronavirus epicenter, is curbing the spread of the virus, even as restrictions ease. To date, the U.S. has reported 196,485 deaths associated with COVID-19, JHU reports. What to watch via the Washington Post: "The University of Washington’s Institute on Health Metrics estimates that there will be nearly 413,000 deaths by the end of the year.

"Of that total, almost precisely half are projected to have occurred in red states."


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1 posted on 09/17/2020 1:23:38 PM PDT by gattaca
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To: gattaca

The point is that states led by Democrats have more deaths than those with Republican administrations (e.g., New York versus Florida). Yet, at the same time, Democrats claim they would have done better. Obviously the evidence shows otherwise, despite the way Axios obfuscates.


2 posted on 09/17/2020 1:27:56 PM PDT by gattaca ("Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives." Ronald Reagan)
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Yep, add to that all the riots in Blue states and we all know how bad Dem politicians are.


3 posted on 09/17/2020 1:29:42 PM PDT by 1Old Pro (evience)
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To: gattaca

The President is right. There are more psychopaths in states with higher densities of Democrats. They can’t even get enough people to straighten up with mandates in those places.


4 posted on 09/17/2020 1:30:10 PM PDT by familyop ( "Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy".)
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To: gattaca

Blue cities are the source of all evils. From failed schools to violent crime to poverty to homeless and more.


5 posted on 09/17/2020 1:30:12 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: gattaca

So the President of the United States looked at objective, verifiable data and pointed out objective, verifiable facts about that data? And this is somehow a problem?

Oh, but wait, Orange Man BAD!

CNN and others are becoming increasingly transparent in their complete and total loss of objectivity when it comes to President Trump. At some point, even the people sitting in the middle of American politics have to start to see how this president is being attacked by media outlets for no reason other than they just hate him.


6 posted on 09/17/2020 1:33:10 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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7 posted on 09/17/2020 1:36:18 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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Its true.


8 posted on 09/17/2020 1:42:24 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: gattaca

100% true.

Louisiana and Michigan could be exceptions, but they are due to blue cities.


9 posted on 09/17/2020 1:42:52 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: gattaca

lol. Statistics can be used to show many things. The most important is the top 4 states with the highest death rate (deaths/mill) are 1. NJ 2. NY 3. Mass. 4. Conn.


10 posted on 09/17/2020 1:47:14 PM PDT by wattsgnu
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Must have a lot of older people, sicker people, people in crammed housing. . .half of all deaths are minorities I think as well.


11 posted on 09/17/2020 1:56:24 PM PDT by olivia3boys
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If all states had the same rate of death per 1 million as New York there would now be over 550,000 deaths in the United States.


12 posted on 09/17/2020 1:58:49 PM PDT by Lakewood
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And if all states had the same death rate as Texas there would now be less than 170,000 deaths in the United States.


13 posted on 09/17/2020 2:01:13 PM PDT by Lakewood
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According to PEW research: Of the 44 hardest-hit congressional districts, the top 10% in terms of deaths, 41 are represented by Democrats, while three are represented by Republicans. These include the New York-area districts, as well as those in the Boston, Detroit and the New Orleans metropolitan areas. The next 100 hardest-hit districts, which represent the remainder of the top third of districts, with an average of 270 deaths, also are disproportionately represented by Democrats: 75 are represented by Democrats, 25 by Republicans.

About two-thirds (68%) of the 44 least affected districts – the bottom 10%, with an average 13 deaths in each district – are represented by Republicans in Congress.

So I can safely say, according to PEW research, Trump was right. And I searched through some of the liberal sites that were saying Trump isn't telling the truth, and not one put up traceable numbers. So they aren't lying...they're just not telling the truth. Lib playbook. rwood

14 posted on 09/17/2020 2:02:04 PM PDT by Redwood71
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Axios is Comcast


15 posted on 09/17/2020 2:35:34 PM PDT by Gene Eric (On Don't be a statist!)
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highest number of deaths is not relevant number, the Highest number of Deaths per Million comparison would be apples to apples.

Media always lies and distorts.

If you look at Texas per population is is nowhere near the top of anything.

“Figures never Lie, but Liars Figure”.


16 posted on 09/17/2020 2:44:26 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: gattaca

If someone is going to blame Trump for covid-19 then they certainly have to hold governors accountable - even more so.


18 posted on 09/17/2020 3:01:23 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Lakewood

If all the states had the death rate of Virginia, there would be just under 100,000 deaths now. we did a lockdown, but it was pretty lax compared to others. We didn’t force stores to close, just to limit customers to 10 at a time, and we never shut down restaurants completely, just seating, and we opened up back in June. We never had an outdoor mask mandate. We never had draconian fines.

We did let the COVID get to some of our nursing homes, which drove our death counts in april/may, but since then we’ve been pretty good on the death rate.

There is no excuse for any state to be doing worse than us. We have some big cities and big population centers, being right next door to DC. We have a metro in some of our counties.


19 posted on 09/17/2020 3:16:00 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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The big picture: New York (D), New Jersey (D), Texas (R), California (D) and Florida (R) have to date reported the highest number of deaths from the virus in the U.S., according to Johns Hopkins University.

Fake fake fake news. Texas has a population of 29 million. Florida has a population of nearly 22 million. Its deaths per million of the population that counts, not total deaths.
Going by deaths per million, all the worst affected states are run by Democrats and the best performing states like South Dakota are run by Republicans. Take out Dem run states like New York and New Jersey and America's deaths rate would have been far far lower.
Axios is a joke.

20 posted on 09/17/2020 3:20:44 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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