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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
I believe I've read that all members of the Armed Forces who are “retired” (as opposed to discharged or separated) is still,technically,subject to the Commander-In-Chief's orders...including recall to active duty.I don't know if that means that they're also subject to the UCMJ.But if it does it seems as if various retired Generals have violated a dozen (or more) articles of the UCMJ.
17 posted on 09/13/2020 3:07:16 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Thanks To Biden Voters Oregon Is Now A Battleground State!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

According to the video, Article 88 of UCMJ takes care of that...


39 posted on 09/13/2020 3:57:39 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: Gay State Conservative; UMCRevMom@aol.com; Biggirl

You are basically correct. Retired pay is actually a ‘retainer pay’ with the recipient subject to recall to active duty at the convenience of the government. Generally the recall is subject to those with less than either 30 or 35 years of combined active and retired service. At least this was the law when I retired in 1993, after 20 years in the Army. Now at 73 I could still do my old intel analyst job or be an Army historian, which I did for 22 years after I retired from active duty.


50 posted on 09/13/2020 4:35:16 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Gay State Conservative
The exact wording of Article 88.

“Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Transportation, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Territory, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.”

Just because an Officer retires does not mean he looses his Commission.

If the Officer should resign his Commission he receives no pay and allowances and is not longer subject to the UCMJ.

A Commissioned or Warrant Officer can't just quit and walk away. They have to apply and the particular service has the final say.

It has been 45 years since I served but I do believe Article 88 is the same today as it was back then.

I remember how shocked my civilian friends were when they found out that one essentially abrogates there 1st Amendment Rights when the swear the "Oath".

57 posted on 09/13/2020 4:52:10 PM PDT by ImpBill (The Country I grew up in and supported in so many ways no longer exists!!!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Not still are technically subject to the UCMJ. They ARE subject to the UCMJ. Retired officers can be recalled at the drop of a hat, snap of the fingers, etc. They are still “technically” in the military. Just not active. They collect, LTCs, full Colonels, Generals, ALL COLLECT huge retirement checks. Generals by virtue of their jobs, have inroads to great civilian jobs, with military contractors, etc. They don’t have to worry about their next meals.


100 posted on 09/17/2020 11:21:14 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (Friends, are you prepared to meet the LORD? Do you KNOW Him? Time is running out.)
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