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Ben Sasse Calls For Repealing The 17th Amendment
Daily Caller ^ | September 8, 2020 | SCOTT MOREFIELD

Posted on 09/08/2020 3:37:45 PM PDT by maggief

Republican Nebraska Sen. Ben Sasse called for the repeal of the 17th Amendment to the United States Constitution in an op-ed published Tuesday by The Wall Street Journal.

Proposed in 1912 and ratified by 36 state legislatures on April 8, 1913, the amendment required U.S. senators to be elected by popular votes in each state. Prior to its enactment, Article I of the Constitution mandated that each state legislature vote to send two senators to Washington.

Sasse’s op-ed, titled, “Make the Senate Great Again,” suggested several Senate reforms “aimed at promoting debate, not ending it.”

“What would the Founding Fathers think of America if they came back to life?” Sasse began. “Their eyes would surely bug out first at our technology and wealth. But I suspect they’d also be stunned by the deformed structure of our government. The Congress they envisioned is all but dead. The Senate in particular is supposed to be the place where Americans hammer out our biggest challenges with debate. That hasn’t happened for decades—and the rot is bipartisan.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Nebraska
KEYWORDS: 17thamendment; bensasse; nebraska; rino; sasse; seventeenthamendment; seventhamendment
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To: Sacajaweau

Basically, we did. Federalists and anti-Federalists (or Jeffersonian Republicans AKA Democrat-Republicans).


21 posted on 09/08/2020 3:49:00 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Want Stalinazism More ? PLUGS-WHORE 2020 !)
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To: maggief

Alan Keyes called for this back when he ran for The Senate in Illinois. It didn’t go well for him.


22 posted on 09/08/2020 3:49:15 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.d)
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To: maggief

Could this be Ben’s way of creating a larger platform, a higher profile for himself as a politician?
Does he have goals for higher office?
This sounds like something I’d expect Ted Cruz to do.


23 posted on 09/08/2020 3:50:11 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: nickcarraway
I understand the reasoning, but wouldn’t state legislatures pick farther left candidates?

Only the Dem ones would.

24 posted on 09/08/2020 3:50:29 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.d)
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To: maggief
"requiring senators to live together in dorms when in Washington."

I like the dorms idea, but not in Washington DC.

It should be in an isolated area with a 150 mile exclusion zone where lobbyists may be lawfully hunted for sport (North Dakota?).
25 posted on 09/08/2020 3:51:38 PM PDT by indthkr
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To: maggief

I agree.


26 posted on 09/08/2020 3:51:40 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: nickcarraway

Could California and New York go any further left than Schumer and Harris and Feinstein? Just to cite two examples....


27 posted on 09/08/2020 3:51:44 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.d)
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To: discostu

From what I seen, legislatures will vote for someone to the left of themselves, but never to the right of themselves.


28 posted on 09/08/2020 3:51:50 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
I believe that most state legislatures are Republican now. I believe the pragmatic idea behind the repeal of the 17th is that we would get large Republican majorities in the Senate.

However, long term, if state citizens know that their state senators are going to pick their U.S. senators, then over time the state legislatures will move toward the Dems.

Then we'll have one party rule down to the state level when the illegals are given amnesty and the wall is allowed to decay in place.

29 posted on 09/08/2020 3:52:21 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Mr. N. Wolfe

Not sure about term limits. I used to be for term limits but now I think doing so would empower the deep state.


30 posted on 09/08/2020 3:54:25 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: maggief

Repealing the 17th Amendment is meaningless unless the 16th is also repealed.

The unimaginable amounts of money available to Congress and their “beneficiaries” is such that every state legislative body would be swimming in lobbyist cash.

You’d simply be moving the distribution point and make it harder to pinpoint the main players.


31 posted on 09/08/2020 3:54:40 PM PDT by Bratch (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: BrexitBen

The elected faces are puppets anyway. The government is run by career people, staff, lobbyists, and other unelected powers.


32 posted on 09/08/2020 3:54:43 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: maggief

He’s absolutely correct. The Senate was meant to represent the interests of the states. What the 17th amendment did was to further consolidate power in the hands of the federal government and further reduce the states from being constitutional actors which they originally were to being little more than administrative appendages of the federal government.


33 posted on 09/08/2020 3:55:08 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: maggief

Yes!


34 posted on 09/08/2020 3:55:33 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: nickcarraway

We have all forgotten when this repeal consideration was one of the early goals of FR.

We ran threads about it in the old days.

The biggest issue was that a Senator’s indiidual power to block an issue was so great that the cost od buying a State Legislature made it too easy for interests to control the Senate.


35 posted on 09/08/2020 3:55:37 PM PDT by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: BrexitBen

6 is too many.........


36 posted on 09/08/2020 3:57:36 PM PDT by Osage Orange (TRUMP!!!)
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To: Cboldt

37 posted on 09/08/2020 3:57:44 PM PDT by Bratch (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: maggief
A better idea is for Senators must win a majority of counties (or parishes if the candidate is in Louisiana) in that state. Sort of like a state electoral college system.

Do we really want smokey backrooms filled with state legislators and lobbyists choosing our Senators?

38 posted on 09/08/2020 3:59:00 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Trust the plan of the 17th letter of the English alphabet!)
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To: maggief

I’ll back that.


39 posted on 09/08/2020 4:00:21 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Rummyfan
In California, Tom Ammiano and Scott Weiner spring to mind, but there could be others. (For the record, Feinstein is considered "too" moderate on many issues to a lot of Democrats, and she probably is more moderate than a lot of them.

In New York, de Blasio, Yvette Clarke, AOC(which could happen some day), Tiffany Caban, Jessica Ramos,Jamaal Bowman.

There are a lot, in both states.

40 posted on 09/08/2020 4:02:46 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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