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Rep. Matt Gaetz recommends Donald Trump pardon fugitive NSA leaker Edward Snowden
The Washington Times ^ | Sep 3 | By Andrew Blake

Posted on 09/05/2020 4:10:36 PM PDT by RandFan

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To: tennmountainman

totally agree...you have so much leaking of classified by those in NSA, FBI, etc and NOTHING happens to them and this man saw something that was RULED ILLEGAL ...pardon him~


41 posted on 09/05/2020 4:53:59 PM PDT by terart
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To: Chickensoup

The fact is, he never initiated any of the protocols.


42 posted on 09/05/2020 4:56:35 PM PDT by trublu
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To: zeestephen

The irony is it was Clapper and Obama who went after him so vehemently, not Trump or the GOP. In fact Trump seems minded to Pardon him.


43 posted on 09/05/2020 4:57:08 PM PDT by RandFan (3C)
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To: PIF

Get back to me when Hillary, Comey, Brennan go to jail too.


44 posted on 09/05/2020 5:09:22 PM PDT by tennmountainman (The Liberals Are Baby Killers)
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To: tennmountainman

Oh and Clapper too.
If it was public knowledge, why did Clapper lie under oath in Hearings?


45 posted on 09/05/2020 5:13:45 PM PDT by tennmountainman (The Liberals Are Baby Killers)
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To: dfwgator
Every time I see someone refer to Russia as an "enemy country," I am reminded of this idiocy I posted during the height of the Mueller investigation some time ago:

BREAKING NEWS: Three U.S. Military Personnel Under Investigation for Collaborating with the Russians

WARNING: It's satire. :-P

46 posted on 09/05/2020 5:15:41 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("We're human beings ... we're not f#%&ing animals." -- Dennis Rodman, 6/1/2020)
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To: PIF

Excellent summary !

Contrast Snowden’s actions with Dr Terry Lakin. Lakin saw something his conscience said was wrong. He followed that conscience made his decision. Defended his decision in military court bravely took the consequences. (Note not in any way defending the courts decision. Also not saying anything about the rightness or wrongness of Lakin’s initial decision.) Snowden claimed his action were due to his conscience didn’t test it court. He took the PRC Express to Hong Kong, then the FSB Special to Moscow. He paid his freight.

Who is the most honorable ?


47 posted on 09/05/2020 5:20:37 PM PDT by Reily
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To: RandFan

Give a full pardon providing he gives up the goods on clapper and others.


48 posted on 09/05/2020 6:04:06 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (BLM= Baby Lives Matter)
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To: RandFan

BTW, people may forget that rather than pardoning a defendant, the President can direct the DOJ to drop the case. Except in the case of General Flynn, who had already pleaded guilty, the President surely has an absolute right to do so. Now the effect would not be the same but it might be a less politically controversial way to proceed.


49 posted on 09/05/2020 6:28:52 PM PDT by Stingray51
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To: RandFan

If he is as guilty as they say he is ( and I do believe he is a glory seeking primadonna, not a noble whistleblower), there has to be at least one law he broke that he can have a fair trial and defend himself that the state can charge him with.


50 posted on 09/05/2020 6:44:35 PM PDT by jz638
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To: trublu

So?


51 posted on 09/05/2020 7:07:48 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: jz638

He has said he will stand trial if he is allowed to defend himself properly so your idea might work however its up to the administration to change their stance..


52 posted on 09/05/2020 8:27:32 PM PDT by RandFan (3C)
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To: jz638

He has said he will stand trial if he is allowed to defend himself properly so your idea might work however its up to the administration to change their stance..


53 posted on 09/05/2020 8:27:32 PM PDT by RandFan (3C)
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To: Alberta's Child
Russia didn’t give a sh!t about the U.S. government and granted him entry and temporary asylum.

I completely disagree. Russia cared a lot. This was a hue victory for them - they got a top secret lap top, possibly other materials, and a former NSA worker. And they got Snowden to make whatever public statements they want. They cared.

54 posted on 09/05/2020 10:31:08 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: RandFan

I’m going to say that it is clear, as it was a few years ago, that what Snowden did was a mixed bag of benefits of getting things out there of things which should not have been happening, and malicious release of things which should most clearly have been secret. The damage would take decades to repair if it wasn’t for further ongoing damage that others are doing.


55 posted on 09/05/2020 10:33:05 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Alberta's Child
He actually WAS trying to get to South America. The U.S. put tremendous financial pressure on those governments to deny his request for asylum.

I have a different perspective. By the the NSA, or other intelligence agency knew, it was much to late. Snowden knew his identity was going to be revealed soon. If he wasn't an idiot, he would have been in a country he could be safe in, before they were looking for him. He was an idiot to still be in Hong Kong. [I guess this doesn't apply if he was a knowing Russian asset, except he was foolish to put himself in that country, where he has no freedom]

56 posted on 09/05/2020 10:34:27 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: RandFan; All
I was conflicted when Snowden first did his thing. I recognized this was important public information, but could not countenance, as a former USAF officer with security clearances, his violation of his oath.

Well, a lot has changed since 2013.

We have seen how the "Deep State" - especially the "Intel Community" - has utter contempt for the American People, its institutions and system of government.

I have come full circle. I agree with Matt Goetz. Snowden should get a full pardon. And maybe The Presidential Medal of freedom too.

57 posted on 09/06/2020 11:42:38 AM PDT by Simon Foxx
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To: Simon Foxx

Wow that is some journey you have been on.

Thank you for sharing it.

I suspect you’re not alone.


58 posted on 09/06/2020 11:53:52 AM PDT by RandFan (3C)
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To: RandFan

Not only should Snowden be pardoned, he should be given absolute and complete immunity for prosecution for anything that he might reveal in his testimony. His pardon should be sweeping and historic. All the chips can fall where they may after that. A simultaneous blanket pardon should be mde for Assage. I want to know in detail about the involvement of Rich.


59 posted on 09/06/2020 1:06:45 PM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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