Salesforce extends work-from-home option until at least August 2021

San Francisco Chronic ^ | August 19, 2020 | Roland Li

[Spktyr]

Forgot to mention - one thing that’s likely to stop WFH from being a way to leak jobs to India is data handling/privacy laws and requirements to comply with US regulations for a lot of clerking. Companies would have skipped WFH and outsourced desk jobs to India long before now if they could legally do so.

[Alberta's Child]

India is just an example. A more likely prospect might be the Philippines -- or any other place where people learn English and can produce 70% of the quality of an American worker for 10% of the cost.

This is the downside of big-time bandwidth expansion across the world, for sure.

[Spktyr]

Except, again, there’s issues with US regulations that make this very difficult. It’s pretty hard for a Philippine national to get to be a US notary (required for many companies) without actually being and working here, for example.

There was a big push to try to do exactly what you propose at the end of the 2000s/beginning of the 2010s. After all, if you’re outsourcing support, why not outsource clerical? It backfired and not because of technical reasons.

[Starcitizen]

Not just call centers (all inbound phone scammers are from India), but all back office functionality - finance, outbound sales, medical - moving to India.

[Spktyr]

I’ve watched companies try moving finance, outbound sales and other departments to India. They almost always end up moving back within the year. It just doesn’t work.

[Mr. Jeeves]

I’m going to go out on a limb here, and predict that this will not work well long-term.

Mainly because a lot of companies are going to figure out they can generate 95% of their former revenue with 25% of their former staffing levels. When they do finally bring people back to offices, many will never get the invitation.

[SkyPilot]

The lock down could have been ended very quickly. In fact, millions of Americans were clamoring for it. Businesses were begging for the end of it. Parents were pleading for the end of it.

But - that wasn't "The Plan."

It was supposed to be two, maybe three weeks to "Flatten the Curve" and not overwhelm the medical infrastructure.

When the state governors and mayors saw there was almost zero push back from the White House, the Dept of Justice, state legislatures, the courts, or any other Federal agencies -- they knew they had unlimited powers and were now essentially dictators.

As days turned into weeks, it became obvious that the states could inflict mask edicts, pick winners and losers of who could operate (i.e. weed shops, liquor stores, and abortion mills GOOD, churches BAD), and impose unconstitutional "laws" with a sweep of their pens.

President Trump tweeted a lot, and appeared on camera every single day with Fauci and Birx talking about ventilators and delivery trucks.

And our fate was sealed.

[Alberta's Child]

Your recollection of the early days and weeks of this fiasco simply isn't accurate.

1. Very few people were clamoring for an end to the lockdowns. In fact, polls showed overwhelming public support for it.

2. Heck -- I knew this country was doomed when I saw all the so-called "patriotic conservatives" right here on FreeRepublic scolding those of us who dared to suggest that this was a bad idea. To me, the defining post from those days was from a Freeper who was telling everyone that his gun club was closing down under the governor's orders in his state. A FREAKING GUN CLUB.

3. I never even heard the slang term "Karen" until this fiasco started. Now it's part of the everyday lexicon here. And those Karens are still out there, and they are a key swing voting group -- which is why everyone in public office all the way up to the President has been catering to their silly, infantile whims even to this day.

[SkyPilot]

1. Very few people were clamoring for an end to the lockdowns. In fact, polls showed overwhelming public support for it.

For the first two or three weeks, as I stated. Then when it became evident that our tyrannical despots called governors could do anything they wanted, the American people wanted the president to step in and do something. He didn’t.

[Starcitizen]

Amazon, Microsoft and Google are moving most of their tech staff to India. They just don’t want to hide in the fascade of being American companies any more. Boycott their products until something new and American comes along.

[Starcitizen]

Hell, Freepers here still whine about people not being masked. They bought into the whole plandemic lock, stock and barrel. While deflecting all blame from the Communist Chinese.

[Starcitizen]

Especially when these companies will just outsource to India to save costs. Eff quality. There is a reason why most Americans despise Indians. It started with the offshoring of Americans jobs. While not ideal, it’s actually pleasant to get a Filipino call center agent with American English and an American accent rather than an Indian who does not know American English with the Apu accent.

[Spktyr]

Microsoft’s being forced to move at least some of it back per friends I have that work there. Amazon’s had to move their second level support back as well.