Posted on 08/23/2020 2:20:15 PM PDT by NobleFree
President Donald Trump hosted a campaign rally in Oshkosh, Wisconsin, the same night the Democratic National Convention was scheduled to kick off in Milwaukee. While Democrats instead opted for a virtual conference to avoid spreading the coronavirus, Trump drew a crowd of at least 1,000 people.
In off-the-cuff remarks, Trump suggested to Republicans that if they wanted to win elections, they had to keep cannabis legalization off the ballot. Though the Trump Administration has attacked cannabis reform in behind-closed-doors proceedings and by blocking legislative action, this is the first time the President has made negative comments about cannabis in public. The next time you run please dont put marijuana on the ballot at the same time youre running, Trump said at the rally. You brought out like a million people that nobody ever knew were coming out.
The comments were directed at former Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, who was among the crowd and was ousted in the 2018 midterm election by Democratic challenger and current Gov. Tony Evers. But the 2018 gubernatorial race was heated with just over one percentage point of total votes separating Evers and Walker.
However, statewide legalization wasn't on the Wisconsin ballot in 2018. Instead a number of local advisory questions appeared in 16 counties, which all voted affirmatively they would support recreational or medical cannabis reform. But these voter approvals were nonbinding and only serve to gauge public sentiment on a given topic.
These ballot measures were placed there by elected officials in those individual counties. Walker had no role in placing them on the ballot, as Trump suggested. Data suggests those measures may have tipped the gubernatorial race Evers' favor. Official results show Evers gained significant votes in those 16 counties [...]
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Oh sure, every bar brawl I've ever seen was caused by pot smokers, not sloppy drunks.
Some do. Is that a good reason to give violent criminals a monopoly on the marijuana market?
Dave’s not here.
Unlike those productive alkies?
Man up and don't make your problems the problems of responsible users.
You’re basically the poster child for moving goalposts. You’re as bad as someone that brings up nazis in every post. You can’t help yourself to not compare pot to other drugs when people bash pot on its own. Just incapable.
And rightly so - it's an excellent test of whether an anti-legalizer really believes the principles they profess. Usually they don't.
You’re worse. When someone compares pot to another drug you recoil in anger. But it’s ok for you to compare it to your favorites alcohol and tobacco. Say pot’s as mentally bad for you as opiates, probably worse, and you’ll rant and rave. It’s a one-way street with most liberaltarians.
I see that, too. I think most of the people who vote for that are young Millennials who have the attitude of, “I’m entitled to my addictions and I want a powerful government to protect me from the consequences of my mistakes.” Probably a tiny percentage who have a libertarian attitude of wanting to be free and willing to suffer the consequences of making mistakes without blaming “the system” or society for any problems.
I never said that. I don’t know of any alcohol cartel doing such a thing.
Yes I already know what you think. when pot users do something bad it’s the fault of non-pot users. Trust me I’ve heard it all before.
Most alcoholics can’t get away with that it at work.
Some of you guys are missing the point. The President’s statement has nothing to to with legalization, or not. As we Michiganders pointed out, putting proposals regarding pot legalization on the ballot brings out Leftists to vote who normally do not care.
Leave such proposals for an off year ie not office competition. Not doing that is how Michigan got Herr Whitmer.
Apples and oranges - I compare pot to alcohol and tobacco because the latter two are legal but, according to principles professed by many anti-pot-legalizers, shouldn't be. By contrast, equatings of pot with other illegal drugs get an expression of skepticism and a call for evidence - which is usually nonexistent to thin.
At least you admitted pot and alcohol are apples and oranges. Yet you continue to do it.
I’ve been saying that for years. The flip side is once your state legalizes weed it’s never a political issue again and liberal voter turnout can’t be pumped up by it.
So you also want alcohol made illegal unless government stops taxing it, correct?
I never said that.
You should, if you're not a hypocrite making up "principles" to serve your predetermined conclusions and applying them only where it suits you.
I dont know of any alcohol cartel doing such a thing.
If government is a cartel for taxing legal pot as you claim, it must equally be a cartel for taxing the legal drug alcohol.
And there were bona fide alcohol cartels when the drug alcohol was illegal.
That's how NJ ended up with Murphy who promised the moon on pot and delivered nothing. Except for the 2nd highest Covid-19 death rate in the nation but that's a different subject.
You must say the same about heroin and crack.. If you’re not a hypocrite. Oh right.
Straw man - I never said nor implied that and don't believe it. When a pot user, alcohol user, or judge-sober person does something bad, it's their own fault.
If they care only when pot is on the ballot, they're ripe for the picking by limited-government conservatives supporting legalization ... but not for "liberty for me but not for thee" right-statist hypocrites.
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