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How U.S. Policy Turned the Sonoran Desert Into a Graveyard for Migrants
New York Times ^ | August 18, 2020 | James Verini

Posted on 08/23/2020 4:26:25 AM PDT by karpov

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In the mid-1990s, the federal government introduced a policy of pushing undocumented migrants away from border cities and into increasingly remote locations. The policy persisted, and as it did, more people died. According to the Border Patrol, just under 8,000 migrants have turned up dead on the Southern border since 1998. The real number is probably much higher, but even going by the Border Patrol’s estimates, that is a rate of about one migrant death per day, every day of the last 22 years.

Slightly less than half of those deaths occur in southern Arizona, most in the Sonoran Desert. Almost all the bodies found there end up at the medical examiner’s office in Tucson. This fact has become widely known beyond the city, and every day the office receives calls about the missing from desperate families and foreign consulates.

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Going north wasn’t just about escaping desperation, not any longer. It was about being a success. People who went to the U.S. had nicer houses, nicer jobs, nicer lives. They sponsored religious festivals, endowed churches and paid the school fees and hospital bills of distant cousins. Their children had better prospects — a matter of newfound concern for Roberto and Caty, who in early 2019 learned that Caty was pregnant.

When, that summer, Roberto told his parents he was considering migrating, he had already made his decision. The plan was for him to go first. Once he was settled near Nashville, Caty would go. She wanted to give birth there so their baby would be an American citizen.

Finding someone to take him wasn’t difficult. Tomás called a “coyote,” or people smuggler, who had recently transported the nephew of a friend. When he came to the Sunúns’ store, Caty and Roberto realized they had seen him around town.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; immigration; invaders; invasion; sonora
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I don't want illegal aliens to die in the desert. I do want them to stay in their own countries. Even many NYT commenters agree.
1 posted on 08/23/2020 4:26:25 AM PDT by karpov
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“I do want them to stay in their own countries.”

By allowing ANY of them to come to the US, we make the US into a safety valve protecting their unworkable societies from change.


2 posted on 08/23/2020 4:33:00 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud?)
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To: karpov

US policy should have never given them any benefits - the States should not have given them any benefits - or any refuge any any kind. That, in itself, would have cut migration down to none to little. They fact they headed into the dessert is about evasion of security forces to detect them. US Policy did not kill them - it was the LEFT and their schemes to use these ILLEGAL people for votes and to obtain power from those that made it.

If they got here and could not work - could not get benefits - their children being born here were not citizens - etc etc etc -— they would not have come in the first place.

It is a tragedy and having seen this area while stationed in Fort Huachuca is just unbelievable that there are people so desperate to risk it all... but if there was no reward once they got here — they would not have set out at all.


3 posted on 08/23/2020 4:33:43 AM PDT by Patriot_MP (Of the Troops, For the Troops - US of A Always. Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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Good grief! They’re going to lay the blame on the USofA? What about the thousands that marched across Mexico to sneak into the USofA? If they can make it north toward the US, then I don’t see the problem of them moving back south. It’s time for the media to stop with the heartstrings and trying to make Americans look heartless just because we have laws.
4 posted on 08/23/2020 4:34:01 AM PDT by beachn4fun (Know the facts before you act.)
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To: karpov

Clearly Trumps fault.


5 posted on 08/23/2020 4:34:11 AM PDT by mylife (Opinions: $1, Today's Special, Half Baked: 50c)
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To: karpov

Not to sound callous, but what is the problem? Why is it our fault these people made a stupid decision and paid with their lives?


6 posted on 08/23/2020 4:36:35 AM PDT by kickstart ("A gun is a tool. It is only as good or as bad as the man who uses it" . Alan Ladd in 'Shane')
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.... and yet it was the MSM, the NY Times in particular,
that has lured the migrants TO THEIR DEATHS.


7 posted on 08/23/2020 4:37:40 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("when a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced")
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Good grief! They’re going to lay the blame on the USofA?

Almost right -- it's all Trump's fault. Just like everything else.

They're not mad at all at China for Covid-19. That too, is Trump's fault.

8 posted on 08/23/2020 4:40:03 AM PDT by HandBasketHell
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To: Patriot_MP

Sneak in through the Tohono O’dham Indian reservation, they will give you clear passage all the way to Tucson.

Skip through various other reservations and yer in Phoenix.


9 posted on 08/23/2020 4:41:38 AM PDT by mylife (Opinions: $1, Today's Special, Half Baked: 50c)
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To: karpov

The US Navy turned the Pacific ocean into a graveyard for would be migrating hordes of enemy sailors.


10 posted on 08/23/2020 4:47:07 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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Lets see ...the US, its citizens and the immigration laws have FORCED the illegals into the desert to die


11 posted on 08/23/2020 4:47:15 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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NYT might have a point...to the extent the Mexican border states are run by cartels -effectively preventing normal civic society. Think downtown Chicago in an entire state.

To the extent the NYT wants to make this “our fault” is that the permeability of the border to migrants reflects the permeability of the border to drugs.

All involved understand -and no one better than PDJT-that once the border is effectively closed and drug interdiction and shut down finally becomes a reality-the narco states may eventually have an opportunity to evolve into a civilized society.

“business-as-usual” on the border only benefits “big-business” on each side of it at all of our expense.


12 posted on 08/23/2020 4:47:23 AM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible")
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Socialist Justice Lawyers have a lot of nlood on their hands.


13 posted on 08/23/2020 4:48:57 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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Next they will say it was our fault that so many died trying to escape East Germany.


14 posted on 08/23/2020 4:51:44 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (The root word of vigilante is vigilant!)
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To: kickstart

No one is responsible for their actions anymore. Everyone is a victim.


15 posted on 08/23/2020 4:51:47 AM PDT by ARW
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To: Patriot_MP

BTW I loved my time at Ft Hoochie Coochie, I had hoped to retire out there.


16 posted on 08/23/2020 4:54:43 AM PDT by mylife (Opinions: $1, Today's Special, Half Baked: 50c)
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To: karpov

I call bs. there’s no reason to believe the NYT is factual on anything Regardless of how true it sounds.


17 posted on 08/23/2020 4:55:02 AM PDT by ARW
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To: karpov
The New York Times Has Been Ridiculous for a Long Time

Why the NYT Must Die

18 posted on 08/23/2020 4:56:14 AM PDT by T Ruth (Mohammedanism shall be destroyed.)
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To: karpov

How many Americans were killed by illegals in the last 22 years?
Bet it’s more than 8000.


19 posted on 08/23/2020 4:58:16 AM PDT by GranTorino (Bloody Lips Save Ships.)
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NYT.....meh

You weren’t invited. Don’t come. You die trying oh well


20 posted on 08/23/2020 5:06:01 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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