[Alberta's Child]

The fraud was telling people to donate because they were not going to take any money which they in fact did.

I understand that this was the narrative in the indictment, but read my post carefully again.

Were they actually charged with defrauding anyone? I mean -- is there a separate fraud count listed that establishes the basis for a Federal wire fraud count?

Like I said ... the fraud charge may not be a Federal charge even though the wire fraud is. But is there any reference to an actual count of fraud?

[Okeydoker]

Well, there is an appropriate wire fraud charge because the interstate wires were used to commit the fraud.

The indictment repeatedly makes clear that a fraud occurred. That is why they repeatedly described how many times they lied about not getting any money which induced people to give. That is the heart of fraud, telling a lie to get someone to give money with the intent to deceive.

I understand your points. ,