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How to drive fossil fuels out of the US economy, quickly The US has everything it needs to decarbonize by 2035.
vox.com ^ | 8/6/2020 | Dave Roberts

Posted on 08/10/2020 9:50:04 PM PDT by rktman

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To: rktman

Media foot soldiers piece for the Kerry/Kasich team. https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3873239/posts?page=103


61 posted on 08/11/2020 4:38:06 AM PDT by OftheOhio (never could dance but always could kata - Romeo company)
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To: rktman

Of course they will never allow more nuclear

Solar and wind are not efficient enough

Coal is taboo

The only problem these idiots have is physics


62 posted on 08/11/2020 4:43:32 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: roadcat

People who live subsistence level lives don’t need any of that. These people aren’t talking about the rest of us living in a modern first world country. They are envisioning us, the few that are left, living in abject poverty, working until our early death, a hard life of serfdom providing the elite with what they need to continue their affluent lifestyle. Think Pol Pot or NK. Forget that at your peril.


63 posted on 08/11/2020 5:04:19 AM PDT by redangus
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To: kickstart
Even before the ore gets to a steel mill, it has to be mined and transported. But for diesel trucks and diesel-electric ships, that doesn’t happen.


64 posted on 08/11/2020 5:05:58 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves)
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To: rktman

We Never would have won world war 2 Without fossil fuels.


65 posted on 08/11/2020 5:23:37 AM PDT by GranTorino (Bloody Lips Save Ships.)
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To: The Pack Knight

So what duties does a police officer have?


66 posted on 08/11/2020 5:50:41 AM PDT by The Pack Knight
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To: roadcat
Misleading, they neglect to add that the U.S.A. was largely untouched by war, while other nations were devastated by war...

Bingo! The Marshall Plan did as much for America as it did for Europe. Where did all that stuff the Europeans used come from?

67 posted on 08/11/2020 5:53:18 AM PDT by beancounter13
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To: noiseman

Not to mention the source of the electricity. What ‘green’ energy sources are reliable?

Nuclear? (Yes, but the greenies don’t like that)
Wind? (Only at night)
Water? (Yes, but the greenies don’t like dams)
Solar? (Not very efficient)
GeoThermal? (Not many places can generate that)

What else you got?

Hydrocarbons will supply electricity for the foreseeable future.


68 posted on 08/11/2020 5:57:43 AM PDT by beancounter13
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To: rktman
"A 100% adoption rate is only achieved by mandate. The invisible hand of markets is definitely not fast enough"

Therein lies the false dreams of every Leftist ideolog. In the history of the world, government directed mandates have always failed in the long run, and truly free markets have always been successful.

These dreamers use FDR and WWII as their model of success (the only one they know). Yet it was free markets that drove that success. Within days after Pearl Harbor, Henry Kaiser was given a DOD purchase order to produce 50 AIRCRAFT CARRIERS, with the first to be delivered in 6 months. He was chastised because it took 9. Todays government ordered aircraft carriers take over ten years, mostly because of red tape. Environmental Impact is a good part of that.

It was Henry Ford who designed the B-24 bomber plant on the back of an envelop and was soon producing B-24s at the rate of one an hour. There were no "government mandates" for any of this, only "the invisible hand of markets".

It is indeed only government meddling that has produced the Fairy Dream of Catastrophic Global Warming. This "warming" has come only from biased computer models, and clearly not from actual thermometer readings. The only warming that is scientifically provable is that which warms the hearts of power hungry Leftist mandators. Anyone who thinks that heat pumps and electric vehicles are "available technology" that will solve all our "carbon free energy" problems has never lived where the outside temperature goes well below zero degrees F. It does that over a good part of the planet earth. I've used EVs, air-to-air heat pumps, and ground water heat pumps, none is bullet proof where I live.

69 posted on 08/11/2020 6:03:29 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Calm down and enjoy the ride, great things are happening for our country)
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To: rktman

What’s wrong with carbon??


70 posted on 08/11/2020 6:22:57 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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People are carbon life forms. Liberals don’t know that. They’re idiots.


71 posted on 08/11/2020 6:23:29 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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“...says Griffith. “In the model of the future — where everyone’s house is the same size, everyone’s car is the same size, but it’s all electrified...”

Reminds me of...

“Little boxes on the hillside,
Little boxes made of ticky tacky,
Little boxes on the hillside,
Little boxes all the same.
There’s a green one and a pink one
And a blue one and a yellow one,
And they’re all made out of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same.
And the people in the houses
All went to the university,
Where they were put in boxes
And they came out all the same,
And there’s doctors and lawyers,
And business executives,
And they’re all made out of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same.”


72 posted on 08/11/2020 6:55:28 AM PDT by moovova
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To: rktman

There is no such a thing as a fossil fuel.... fossil fuels do not exist.... this is just another myth perpetrated upon us by the old hippies..


73 posted on 08/11/2020 6:57:37 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Communists Need To Be Eliminated)
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To: SmokingJoe

What? You don’t like the smell of dung fires from the veranda of your mud hut in the morning?


74 posted on 08/11/2020 7:15:03 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: higgmeister

vox can phu-cough


75 posted on 08/11/2020 7:15:40 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: a fool in paradise

SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! We’re not supposed to notice.


76 posted on 08/11/2020 7:17:18 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Nifster

The Left only supports Iran making nuclear power and some are upfront about it claiming that Iran needs to make some nuclear weapons as defense against Israel.

NO NUKES is a commie lie


77 posted on 08/11/2020 7:18:01 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019))
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To: mewzilla

Thanks.


78 posted on 08/11/2020 7:18:20 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: norwaypinesavage

>>>>”A 100% adoption rate is only achieved by mandate. The invisible hand of markets is definitely not fast enough”

>>Therein lies the false dreams of every Leftist ideolog. In the history of the world, government directed mandates have always failed in the long run, and truly free markets have always been successful.

Marxist Maxine Waters already went on record at a hearing that she wants to nationalize/”socialize” the oil companies.


79 posted on 08/11/2020 7:20:42 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019))
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To: CodeToad

The Left wants to snuff out carbon. Just as Democrat homosexual Jim Jones did.


80 posted on 08/11/2020 7:23:11 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019))
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