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The Latest: President Says 2 Possible Causes in Beirut Blast
US News and World Report ^ | 08/07/2020

Posted on 08/07/2020 8:02:14 AM PDT by BenLurkin

Lebanese President Michel Aoun says there are two possibilities behind Tuesday’s blast — either negligence or “external intervention” by a missile or a bomb.

Aoun said Friday that he asked France for satellite images to see if there were warplanes or missiles in the air at the time of the blast.

The blast is believed to have been caused when a fire touched off 2,750 tons of ammonium nitrate that had been stored at the port since it was taken from an impounded ship in 2013. The cause of the initial fire is not known.

Aoun told journalists that he received information on July 20 about the stored material and “immediately ordered” military and security officials to do what was necessary. He did not elaborate. He said several governments in charge since 2013 received warnings about the material.

He said the investigation is concentrating on 20 persons. He rejected an international investigation into the blast, saying that it will make us “lose the truth.”

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: beirut; cause; explosion
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To: coloradan

I’m still confused about rapid oxidation in a non-confined space being capable of this magnitude explosion?


41 posted on 08/07/2020 11:28:08 AM PDT by Cuttnhorse (Nothing dies harder than a lie that people want to believe)
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To: Cuttnhorse

If ammo, was it the trigger for the nitrate?


42 posted on 08/07/2020 11:45:17 AM PDT by Lou Foxwell (It takes a deep level of stupidity to believe Trump is stupid.)
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To: Cuttnhorse

Ammonium nitrate has a formula of NH4NO3, i.e. containing hydrogens and oxygens, as well as nitrogen. When the material explodes, the hydrogens and oxygens get together, making water (H2O), which is where the energy comes from, and there is nitrogen and oxygen left over. Some of those combine under the heat of the explosion to make nitrogen dioxide, in addition to nitrous oxide, nitrogen, and oxygen. When sufficient fuel oil is added, the extra oxygen is used up to make carbon dioxide and more water, from the C’s and H’s in the oil, and little to no nitrogen oxides or free oxygen is produced. But without it, there is oxygen remaining, because each molecule of AN has 4 H’s, which requires 2 O’s to turn to water - but a molecule of AN has 3 atoms, not 2, of oxygen. So there’s one atom of oxygen extra - and this for every single molecule of AN.


43 posted on 08/07/2020 12:16:11 PM PDT by coloradan (The Enemy Media isn't chartered to inform but rather to advance the interests of certain elites.)
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To: 1Old Pro

It is because they make their decisions based on how many votes they can buy with their tax revenues, versus using it to buy important items that you may not need at the moment.

#Pray


44 posted on 08/07/2020 12:20:30 PM PDT by thesearethetimes... (Had I brought Christ with me, the outcome would have been different. Dr.Eric Cunningham)
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To: coloradan

I get the chemistry...for the final time, I am curious about how an explosion can occur in a rapidly oxidizing compound outside of a confined space?

I can take a box of match heads and burn them and nothing happens but flame and smoke...if I take match heads, put them in a pipe with a small fuse opening, all hell happens when they oxidize.

As I mentioned before...I have burned old powder and 3-cases of old, weeping Herc. makes a lot of flame and smoke...but no explosion.


45 posted on 08/07/2020 1:39:13 PM PDT by Cuttnhorse (Nothing dies harder than a lie that people want to believe)
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To: Cuttnhorse

It has to do with the sensitivity to shock, and the power of the shockwave. Primary explosives, particularly, and sensitive secondary explosives, are very sensitive to shock and so will propagate a shockwave even in a thin little tube, i.e. det cord. Some, like nitrogen triiodide, is so sensitive that little tiny grains will explode with a snap in open air, i.e. without any confinement whatsoever. However, less-sensitive explosives require confinement - but, which confinement can come from its own inertial mass. There is a minimum diameter of any given explosive that will propagate the shockwave down to the next length, and successfully set it off. Too small, and it goes out (and just scatters the remaining explosive without setting it off. In this warehouse, with 2,750 tons of the stuff, there are literally thousands of tons of material on top of the bottom layer. Is that enough confinement? Yes. Yes, it is.


46 posted on 08/07/2020 1:51:06 PM PDT by coloradan (The Enemy Media isn't chartered to inform but rather to advance the interests of certain elites.)
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To: coloradan

Thanks...its own inertial mass makes sense


47 posted on 08/07/2020 2:18:07 PM PDT by Cuttnhorse (Nothing dies harder than a lie that people want to believe)
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