[Wizdum]

Last time they tried secession, it cost half a million casualties, a more dominant Federal government, the end of slavery(the new welfare state is the new slavery for the Dums), and a brutal Reconstruction.

I wonder how much they are willing to pay this time?

[qam1]

I wonder how much they are willing to pay this time?

Last time there was a draft, nobody is going to want their sons or daughters drafted to bring California back.