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To: Kaslin

Seems like a sentence like the following ought to have been in this piece, just for context:

“On a per-capita basis, Sweden far outpaces its Scandinavian neighbors in COVID deaths, with 567 deaths per million people compared with Denmark’s 106 deaths per million, Finland’s 59 deaths per million, and Norway’s 47 deaths per million. The Swedish figure is closer to Italy’s 581 deaths per million.”


2 posted on 08/01/2020 10:23:24 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: babble-on
Agreed. There is a LOT to be liked about Sweden's response but the slobberfest that ensues from normally cogent conservatives over SE is puzzling.

Yes, they didn't go full lockdown. But yes, they killed more people per capita than most other nations, and were Cuomo-level efficient in killing the elderly. Further, this really poor piece of reporting fails to mention that the second quarter economic record remains to be written for Sweden...maybe their approach DID work, but maybe not.

Perhaps the biggest conservative failure in fawning over Sweden is the way at which this approach crystallized. In short, they "trusted Science." Yep, the nation that gave us St Greta (I blame the parents and handlers vs the clearly mixed-up child) and happily decomissizoned it's last fossil fuel power plant recently, chose "science." A handful of non-governmental bureaucrats (in Sweden, the govt doesn't control this policy) picked which approach to use, and the public fell into place.

We had a donnybrook in America over the approach that works best, and we are STILL having it. In contrast, because of the fallout from the high fatality count in Sweden, they'll likely go full lockdown when the bug flares up again, because ya know... "science." And the public will happily fall in line.

Again, I like a lot of what Sweden did. But I'll take the American demolition derby approach over Sweden's any day. As for the fan-boying over SE, as Frank Zappa would say, no one looks good in brown lipstick.

5 posted on 08/01/2020 10:45:04 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^s)
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To: babble-on

compare the death rates when all is said and done, it in the middle of the different models. also she. comparing death rates look at the age and overall health if the population as well as the quality of medical care available. You also have to take into consideration the death rates caused by the lockdown in suicides, addictions and delayed health care


8 posted on 08/01/2020 10:49:59 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: babble-on
Seems like a sentence like the following ought to have been in this piece, just for context: Swedish figure is closer to Italy’s 581 deaths per million.”

Seems like a sentence like the following should be added to your post.

"Sweden didn't shutdown and destroy its economy while Italy did."

On a per-capita basis, Sweden far outpaces its Scandinavian neighbors in COVID deaths.

Seems like another sentence should be added to your post.

"If Sweden does have herd immunity while for instance Denmark doesn't, then Denmark will add to its COVID deaths while Sweden won't."

10 posted on 08/01/2020 10:54:55 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: babble-on
“On a per-capita basis, Sweden far outpaces its Scandinavian neighbors in COVID deaths, with 567 deaths per million people compared with Denmark’s 106 deaths per million, Finland’s 59 deaths per million, and Norway’s 47 deaths per million.

Sweden's death rate is equal to Pennsvlvania and NY and NJ are 300% GREATER than Sweden and we know that those three states went into total nazi lockdown.

The mask gestapo, padlocked gym, churches, bars and threw barbers in jail for cutting hair.

The three demonRAT gubbernors of these states MURDERED 10 of thousands of their citizens that lived in senior living homes.

So while Sweden has a much greater death rate than their neighbors, compare them to US states that are demonRAT controlled and ...get back to me.

13 posted on 08/01/2020 11:03:00 AM PDT by USS Alaska (NUKE THE MOOSELIMB, TERRORISTS, NOW!)
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To: babble-on; USS Alaska; FreeReign; Mom MD; DoodleBob

“Seems like a sentence like the following ought to have been in this piece, just for context:”


babble-on: Without citing the culpable math-ignorant such as yourself (I’ve pinged all who replied to your ignorant statement above)...

...here’s a math lesson for you:

567 x 330 = 187,110

I’m not going to outline the significance of those numbers other than the following:

As I predicted months ago now, the US and many other countries will meet or exceed Sweden’s death rate when all is said & done. All “flattening the curve” has accomplished - as predicted by me and many others, including FReepers - is extended the term of the epidemic. Thus all who adhere to the line of thinking you espouse are culpable in tarnishing Trump’s reelection chances, playing right along with the Dems.

Way to go.

As an aside, some dumb liberal b$tch at The Atlantic wrote a piece entitled Beware The Fact Man.

I’d say she was describing you and others here at FR.

Please send my your address so that I may submit my expenses - AND FUTURE TAXES - for which you are partly responsible. /s

As for the cogent responders to your comment, keep up the pressure: The stupid among us cannot prevail.


20 posted on 08/01/2020 12:22:54 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: babble-on

Not only the death numbers.

Sweden has the worst unemployment numbers (9%) and worst economic contraction (5%) than any of it Nordic neighbors.

Nicholas is hailing total defeat as total victory.


27 posted on 08/01/2020 1:01:17 PM PDT by Reaganez
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To: babble-on

What I don’t understand is why the Trump Admin. and our federal government does not compare our nation (pop 330 million+) with other nations (some with populations lower than 15 million) per capita per million population?

COVID-19 deaths worldwide per one million population as of July 30, 2020, by country...

Belgium 861.14
United Kingdom 691.26
Spain 608.71
Peru 588.2
Italy 581.3
Sweden 562.69
Chile 495.38
USA 459.97


36 posted on 08/01/2020 4:31:53 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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