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A South Africa update and it's not pretty; A country once the 'bread basket of Africa' is Turning into another Venezuela fast
American Thinker ^ | 08/01/2020 | Eileen Toplansky

Posted on 08/01/2020 5:20:42 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Truth29

Whites should get out while they still have their lives. They also should burn and destroy their own property as they go. The Black supremacists can have their Marxist one race dream and starve.>>> I have a friend who was a wealthy software company owner who fled in the 1990’s. He could not take his money with him.


41 posted on 08/01/2020 7:37:49 AM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (spooks won on day 76)
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To: EEGator

No. It’s rotting now because S. Africa is adopting failed policies that have turned other prosperous nations into hellholes.


42 posted on 08/01/2020 8:03:10 AM PDT by attiladhun2
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To: SeekAndFind

I read this about Grosse Point Mi and the ghetto that surrounds it. Shows the divide between blacks and whites. Once the Walt Kowalaskis of the US are gone the US will be a 2nd or 3rd world sh*t hole.

“On the Detroit side of the tunnel, many houses are boarded up and grass grows tall and wild. Loud music booms from a passing truck. On the Grosse Pointe side, all is quiet but for the buzzing sound of lawnmowers maintaining the meticulous landscaping.”


43 posted on 08/01/2020 8:03:26 AM PDT by setter
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To: kvanbrunt2

Some people got very creative in smuggling out their resources, if they had time. Jewelry was one route...wear high-quality gold and diamonds on your person (registered with customs) on the way out, sell them in the West and deposit the money in a Western account, and replace them with lower-quality or fakes for the return home.


44 posted on 08/01/2020 8:09:56 AM PDT by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy...and call it progress")
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
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45 posted on 08/01/2020 8:43:45 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: beef
I read something a while back that said the problem with transferring farm land to blacks stemmed from the fact that blacks do not want to be farmers. If South Africa steals land from whites, who are they going to give it to? The Chinese?

Basically none of the blacks in South Africa these days are descendants of people who were “original inhabitants” while many of the white people still remaining have roots that go back hundreds of years

46 posted on 08/01/2020 8:44:29 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: attiladhun2

Keep believing that.
Europe is Europe because of Europeans.
Africa is Africa because of Africans.


47 posted on 08/01/2020 8:45:33 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: Jim Noble
Well, the globalists, cabal, whatever you want to call them, used the blacks to win.

The blacks couldn't win much without ((help)).

48 posted on 08/01/2020 9:01:29 AM PDT by riri
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To: kvanbrunt2
I have a friend who was a wealthy software company owner who fled in the 1990’s. He could not take his money with him

If you love money more than your life, there's an excellent chance you will lose both.

At that point, you REALLY "can't take it with you".

49 posted on 08/01/2020 9:09:52 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Think like youÂ’re right, listen like youÂ’re wrong)
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To: Jim Noble

The blacks won, the whites lost.
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I watched the global progs elevate Mandela, using the leverage of anti-apartheid whites. It did not happen in a vacuum. It was *astonishing* in exactly the same way zer0’s electoral victory was *astonishing*.

Those same whites, some of them sadly ex-pat South Africans, are now trying the same tactics here.

Even now, the ANC has black opposition in the form of the Zulus.

Winning is never a done deal, as Reagan told us.


50 posted on 08/01/2020 1:52:23 PM PDT by reformedliberal (Make yourself less available.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

...before the Boer came,...
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There were not that many people in South Africa before the Boer. From what I’ve read, they were mostly hunters and gatherers.

It was the astonishing rise in production and standard of living and the availability of paid work and food that attracted outside tribes in high numbers. Now they are there permanently and they cannot feed themselves. In nearly 400 years, the continental indigenous did not learn how to farm from the Europeans. As you say: the men believed themselves superior to farming. But well-positioned ANC women were also given land and they were just as incapable of meaningful production.

The Prog Left destroyed it, because they were salivating over the prospect of a black communist nation with nukes. No way they will disband the US military if they win here, either. And Americans will not disable their armament as the South Africans purportedly did. (Not certain just how that actually went down, though)


51 posted on 08/01/2020 2:13:10 PM PDT by reformedliberal (Make yourself less available.)
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To: Ed Condon

Why is it that when white people exploit black people, there is development and prosperity, and when black people exploit black people there is devastation and failure?
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And when black people exploit white people, there is genocide.

Things that make you go: “H’mmmmm.”


52 posted on 08/01/2020 2:14:57 PM PDT by reformedliberal (Make yourself less available.)
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To: SeekAndFind
White farmers control an estimated 73% of commercial farmland today. To try to ease crushing rural poverty, the government has begun to explore legislation that would allow land to be seized without compensation."

They want to fast track starvation? Fine.

As long as they know American citizens aren't to send them food or bail them out - 'cause giving land to people who don't know how to farm, won't work.

53 posted on 08/01/2020 2:20:15 PM PDT by GOPJ (Leo Terrell - Michael Shellenberger - Stephen Hsu - Bari Weiss - Bernell Trammell - John Kass)
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To: SeekAndFind

What happeneds when you make enemies of the white man


54 posted on 08/01/2020 2:58:33 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: reformedliberal
The Prog Left destroyed it, because they were salivating over the prospect of a black communist nation with nukes. No way they will disband the US military if they win here, either. And Americans will not disable their armament as the South Africans purportedly did. (Not certain just how that actually went down, though)

The world owes F.W. de Klerk a debt of gratitude for dismantling South Africa's nuclear weapons before the handover of the country to the ANC. Allowing nukes to fall into their hands would have been a nightmare scenario.

55 posted on 08/01/2020 4:44:02 PM PDT by GaryCrow
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To: reformedliberal

In reading THE WASHING OF THE SPEARS the native men considered themselves warriors, the women were the farmers, and the kids cattle herdsmen.

Now I think of it, the American Plains Indian felt the same.


56 posted on 08/01/2020 6:15:19 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

...the American Plains Indian felt the same.
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Saw it in Papua in the 70s. Women digging with sticks and carrying 40 pounds of vegetables on a tumplime while the men would deign to carry firewood, an airline flight bag, or a male child (and not all at the same time.

Most of the time, the men strolled in a group, laughing and weaving grass armbands.

When the sun went down, the men carried out ambushes on other villages. They called it *payback*. And they spent loads of time in the ‘men only’ huts, chewing betel and roasting yams.

I’d call it a hard-wired tribal human default, except in primitive European settlements, men did real work and the women were alongside them. There was still work separated by gender (mostly), but both actually produced value for the village and individual families.


57 posted on 08/02/2020 5:56:38 AM PDT by reformedliberal (Make yourself less available.)
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To: Ed Condon

What they don’t tell you is that there actually was a black moddle class during apartheid.


58 posted on 08/02/2020 6:06:50 AM PDT by riri
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