Posted on 07/22/2020 7:28:23 PM PDT by redfog
Let's see if these masks hold in coughing using vaping. I'm not in the medical field, I've only made a very short video to make a quick point.
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Oh, got it.
Thanks.
Actually I am undecided on that video. However at the same site I got another similar video comparing several types of masks - one like he showed, a cloth mask, then an N-95, and a KN-95.
I was impressed with the N-95 and KN-95 masks, they seemed to offer real protection.
The standard face mask was better than nothing, both the N-95 and KN-95 were much better.
I thought it was a pretty good video; demonstrated the ABSOLUTE STUPIDITY requiring these stupid face masks.
It’s like using a CHAIN LINC FENCE TO KEEP OUT MOSQUITOES!
Are you saying that something as small as a virus can only travel through the air on something as large as one of my lugees, keeping in mind I have been a smoker for 58 years.
Also keep in mind that it only takes ONE successful viral particle to start an infection.
Not everybody wears glasses if you hadn’t noticed.
I do wear glasses and those masks, nor my glasses are designed to create a tight seal of mask to face!
I wear glasses.
I found that if you put your mask on first, you get the seal on you mask, then you put your glasses on, oner the mask.
That way you have the seal on your mask, then your glasses over the top.
At least that works for me. You can try some different ways.
BULLSEYE, GOT IT IN ONE.
I have had to wear the asbestos full face respirator and full Scott Air Packs for working in hazardous environments.
Even a full face respirator wouldn’t work for a virus, the particles are small enough to get through a P 100 filter, only thing that would really do it is a Scott Full Face Air Pack.
If I’m walking into one of my vendors or a store and they tell me I have to wear a mask I just tell them no thanks and go elsewhere.
It’ their facility, they get to make the rules, just like “no shoes, no shirt, no service”.
> “Social distancing, masks, shutdowns....they only serve to PROLONG the virus.” <
If you’re saying that everyone needs to be exposed to it to speed up acquiring herd immunity, I don’t think that’s the way ordinary varieties of the flu go away.
> “I prefer both of those old fashioned options [coughing or sneezing into my shoulder or using a tissue] to wearing a mask...” <
Many persons don’t react quickly enough, though.
> “Masks don’t do anything to stop dead viral particles which are so small, they can’t even be seen by a regular lens microscope.” <
As I understand it, most viral particles are not moving around separately but together in relatively large droplets of moisture.
> “It doesnt reduce how far the air is propelled it just redirects it. It does nothing to cut down the spread of disease.” <
By redirecting (deflecting) it, there must be a decrease in how far it’s propelled.
[Picture of Trump wearing a mask]
“We are United [it doesn’t seem that way] in our effort to defeat the Invisible China Virus, and many people say that it is Patriotic to wear a face mask when you can’t socially distance. There is nobody more Patriotic than me, your favorite President!” [Donald Trump tweet]
(People around Trump are tested, though, so ordinarily there’s no need for wearing masks.)
You don’t u defeat d fluid dynamics well do you. fluid (or air) traveling through a smaller space speeds up. It likely increases the distance. the point is the virus and drillers are it stopped by the mask they are sprayed into the environment.
HERETIC!!! You question the cult of the Mask! You shall be DAMNED and hounded to the ends of the interwebs by the avatars of Facebook and Twitter!
“And I think it’s in the interest of persons who want Trump to win in November for people to wear masks, reduce the level of sickness as quickly as possible...”
Except....where has a mask mandate put a significant dent in cases/deaths? Dent within 2 weeks, which is all it would take if masks DID work. Arizona has more cases after 4 weeks than we had when masks became required. How can that be if masks cut transmission?
On the back of the boxes of masks we buy at the grocery store: Not for use in healthcare settings.
That says it all.
> “You don’t u defeat d fluid dynamics well do you. fluid (or air) traveling through a smaller space speeds up. It likely increases the distance. “ <
Well, if you narrow the opening on a hose, it does increase the distance the water goes. The situation is probably different with air, though, and with a good bit of room for the air to spread out in different directions. Before the days of home air-conditioning, I’ve sat in rooms with a stationary fan. I much preferred being directly in line with the flow of air to being behind some furniture that would deflect some of it.
This should be easy to test, though. Just cough with your mouth uncovered and feel the pressure when it hits your hand held a couple of feet away. Then try it with the mouth covered (I’d already done that testing in front and didn’t feel anything.) Move your hand to various positions to the side and the same distance away, and see if you can find a point where you can feel the air as strongly or, as you claim, even more strongly than uncovered in front.
I just tried it, and couldn’t find a place where the air is felt as strongly as uncovered. In fact, at about two and half feet, I didn’t feel anything.
There are many variables, and I’m not sure about it myself. From what I’ve seen, though, it just seems common sense that masks would help at least a little.
I haven’t found the story, but wasn’t there a report within the last few weeks about a long air flight in which everyone wore masks, and someone was discovered to have had the virus immediately afterward (and apparently had been infectious during the flight)? The authorities then traced the other passengers on the flight and didn’t find any that had caught the virus.
If that’s true, that would seem very significant. I wish I had the source. I tried searching the net for plane covid masks, but just see general stories about masks and planes. If anyone else has the link, please post it.
(I don’t guarantee the accuracy. Maybe the sick person wasn’t quite infectious when on the flight. If true, though, that would be great news.)
I said, “I much preferred being directly in line with the flow of air [from the fan] to being behind some furniture that would deflect some of it.” I also don’t recall feeling the air stronger to the side of a barrier. If that were true, when alone in a room, I would have put a barrier in front and sat to the side.
Actually I just realized that I’m in a situation in which I can test this theory. I sleep and use my computer in the same room, but have my window air-conditioner in an adjacent room, at a right angle to this one. (I don’t want it in the same room because if it’s nearby, the air-conditioner cutting on and off wakes me.)
A few feet from the door of the other room I have a cabinet slanted toward this room that partially deflects the cooled air being blown by the fan from the air-conditioner. Standing in front of the cabinet, I can feel the air well, standing to the side toward my room, I do feel the air, but it’s barely perceptible.
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