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Oklahoma May Split in Two, Which is What Every State Should Consider Doing
Townhall.com ^ | July 21, 2020 | Gavin Wax

Posted on 07/21/2020 6:29:31 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Vermont Lt

No worries.


41 posted on 07/21/2020 7:38:56 AM PDT by OKSooner (Saint Nicholas is a real Christian Saint from the 3rd and 4th centuries. John Durham does not exist.)
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To: cuban leaf

Colorado is ready....


42 posted on 07/21/2020 7:43:05 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: cuban leaf

Other candidates: Florida, Texas (5), Louisiana Virginia and New York.


43 posted on 07/21/2020 7:46:25 AM PDT by NTHockey (My rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: Kaslin

About 15 years ago, there was some talk of parts of Maryland breaking off. Ten years ago, I moved to the liberal cesspool (deal with it, I needed a job)

This place really is two states. Baltimore and a handful of insane counties could easily break off and become their own bastion of lunacy and leave the rest of us to thrive.


44 posted on 07/21/2020 7:55:23 AM PDT by cyclotic (The most dangerous people are the ones that feel the most helpless)
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To: Kaslin

Which half of Oklahoma gets all the oil?


45 posted on 07/21/2020 7:56:03 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Kaslin

And we’re supposed to trust this fool-in-a-robe Gorsuck with a 2nd Amendment case?

I wish they would make Chicago/Cook County into a separate state. It would be very enjoyable watching it completely destroy itself.


46 posted on 07/21/2020 8:02:35 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: crz

We just spent a few days there enjoying the natural beauty of God’s creation called the Upper peninsula.

I’m not sure I agree with your analysis. Yes, there are great deep water ports, but the extra weeks of transit plus the time necessary for the Soo Locks offers no benefit to normal shipping to ocean or Bay ports.

You’re right on regarding logging and mining. Huge deposits that could power America if government got out of the way.

I wonder if shipbuilding could be done there as it is in Wisconsin?

good hearty hardworking people there.

Our trip was the first in a decade and we plan to be back soon. It’s a two day drive to get there but worth every minute.


47 posted on 07/21/2020 8:03:26 AM PDT by cyclotic (The most dangerous people are the ones that feel the most helpless)
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To: Kaslin

“...but rather, more importantly, it should mean the States vs. the Federal government....”

True of course and this was known 160 years ago...that’s what the Civil War was all about.


48 posted on 07/21/2020 8:07:38 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: gcparent

Albany and the Hudson Valley down to NYC and all of Long Island should be a separate state.

The Adirondacks and all of central and western NY should be another state with Buffalo or Syracuse as its capital.


49 posted on 07/21/2020 8:16:30 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: antidemoncrat

“...Trump’s first pick for the high court sided with the four liberal justices. ..”

If you side with the four liberal justices you are a piece of shit.


50 posted on 07/21/2020 8:16:35 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Vermont Lt; okkev68; Osage Orange; dp0622
Thanks for axing. As OKKev68 pointed out, this is all overblown in the national media, who haven't a clue what the story even is, which as we know is about like them.

What this is about is who has jurisdiction over tribal members who get in trouble with the law. This is something that is included in treaties going back to the late 19th century, that never got straightened out as it should have been, by congress, the state of Oklahoma, and the tribes.

So it comes up in a court case and the USSC correctly rules that the "old" treaties still apply. So if someone who is a tribal member goes and commits a crime, he gets tried in tribal court instead of district court - so, the tribes and the fedgov have jurisdiction over these situations and the state has none, for the time being.

People still pay state taxes and drive on the right side of the street, etc.

Now, where it gets interesting, is our Governor has really alienated himself from almost everyone by, among other things, attempting to shake down the tribes for a big chunk of the money from the casinos. This gambit has been in a state of flux, but now it will serve to unify the tribes even more, in a position of strength, and they'll be able to either make a deal with the governor on their terms or tell him to just go... you know. We're talking about very smart, astute people here.

So, place your bets on it all getting straightened out in due time. The only thing unknown is what will the governor have to concede in order to go back to the old status quo.

Now... If you were to ax me to just start making stuff up wildly, which I could do... "Yeah, the only reasonable thing to do is to split the state in half, right down I-35, and we get the east half where the Cherokee and Osage are, the Capital can be Tahlequah and we'll call the new State Sequoyah... all resident honkies with "undocumented" bloodline are hereby conferred with tribal membership in a similar manner to the Freedmen."

Yeah, that would work just fine for me but that's just makin' up crazy stuff like this guy who wrote this article.

It's really just about criminal jurisdiction, and IMO there will be a business deal made to smooth it all over in time.

Lesson for slow-learning governors: The tribes are run by smart, savvy people and they have political power. Mess with them at your own risk, you just might meet the Thunderbird - but only in the political sense, mind you.

51 posted on 07/21/2020 8:19:03 AM PDT by OKSooner (Saint Nicholas is a real Christian Saint from the 3rd and 4th centuries. John Durham does not exist.)
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To: woodbutcher1963

Staten Island, too.


52 posted on 07/21/2020 8:25:40 AM PDT by gcparent (Justice Brett Kavanaugh)
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To: Honest Nigerian

I’ve been in the UP a number of times on vacation day trips to Lake Superior/Porcupine Mtns. Gorgeous country but oy vey the towns! Reminds me of Grapes of Wrath or backwoods towns in rural Mississippi.


53 posted on 07/21/2020 8:31:38 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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Put Chicago, Cook County, the lake front up to and including Milwaukee and Gary and Lake county Indiana together. Helps three states get or stay red.


54 posted on 07/21/2020 8:34:21 AM PDT by redangus
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To: ought-six

I’d love to see St Louis given to Illinois.


55 posted on 07/21/2020 8:54:31 AM PDT by Pollard (whatever)
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To: Sequoyah101

Ditto that....


56 posted on 07/21/2020 8:55:35 AM PDT by Osage Orange (qcsi)
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To: Kaslin

Litchfield Hills with the Naugatuck Valley area of Connecticut would split from Hartford/New Haven area. The Quiet Corner would merge with Fisher Island and Block Island, too.


57 posted on 07/21/2020 8:59:16 AM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is, too. :-) Trump 2020)
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To: Kaslin

All EASTERN STATES, TOO.


58 posted on 07/21/2020 9:16:48 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: Kaslin

“Democrats are closer than ever to achieving statehood for Washington, DC. “


I don’t know how DC can become a state without amending the Constitution. The idea of the seat of the Federal Government being in a Federal District is in the body of the Constitution, but then there is the 23rd Amendment that awards three Presidential Electors to the District.

These problems can’t be just wished or voted away by the dems in the House.


59 posted on 07/21/2020 9:25:04 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: antidisestablishment

Little secrete for you. Ishpeming and Negaunee- the hub of CCIs mines have swung heavy republican after the long legged mack daddy managed to just about get them shut down.

Copper Country is heavy conservative. has been for a long time.

The worst parts of the UP is Marquette Michigan-a typical college town.


60 posted on 07/21/2020 9:36:57 AM PDT by crz
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