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What a Second American Civil War Could Look Like
Townhall.com ^ | July 21, 2020 | Mark Nuckols

Posted on 07/21/2020 6:19:22 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: joegoeny
Legitimacy is key, secession has been tried and failed because the military in general would not follow an illegitimate leader. Texas would be the temporary seat of the Federal Republic while insurrection is going on in Washington DC. The Red States would express loyalty to the legitimate government. Blue states would express loyalty to Pelosi’s new model federal government. This would create two Blue clusters the East Coast and the West Coast.
Trump would issue an executive order that these states are in revolt and ask the red parts of those states to re-form new state governments: in Illinois case practically the whole state will re-form except for the Chicago area. Even the Western counties of New York would re-from leaving the Blue states nothing more than city states.

As illegal and treasonus as it could possibly be, the demoKKKrat states (I hate the "blue" state terminology applied to the Commie states. They, in fact are the true "red" states.) will demanding an intervention by the United Nations and China will be more than willing to provide any needed troops if they are deployed in defense of the demoKKKrat cities and states.

That said, the CCP has been instrumental in fomenting the Communist revolution in the USA, and rest assured they have innumberable sleeper agents and cells here already.

If Biden is elected, the White House will become the western Red Palace.

Think I'm nuts? China has owned the Clintons for more than 30 years. The Clintons and their fellow travellers are everwhere in the governments agencies.

China is the brains of the "Red Beast," The demoKKKrat party is the mouth and legs. Antif/BLM are the hands.

201 posted on 07/21/2020 11:26:40 AM PDT by Perseverando (Antifa, BLM, Libs, Progs, Islamonazis, Statists, Commies, DemoKKKrats: It's a Godlessness disorder.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

MM is a 5’ 0” woman/blogger. You expect muscle from such a person?


202 posted on 07/21/2020 11:28:30 AM PDT by PallMal
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To: nonliberal
Look at the crowds of rioters. MOST of them are these same snowflakes, white middle class and elite family girls, backed up by slightly older rapidly hardening young men. The young women are out there enthusiastically providing the cannon fodder for the Revolution. As it continues without being stifled they get used to the life of the revolutionary. When the shooting starts they will be pushed out front to take the first bullets and it will not faze them -just drive them to more fanaticism.That is how you get Revolutionaries out of callow youth.

That is why we need to squash these riots NOW,. The longer we wait the more bloodshed when/if the task is accomplished.

The term that will bring on the massacres and disappearances will be "Racists!" in place of the old communist "Enemies of the People."

203 posted on 07/21/2020 11:29:13 AM PDT by arthurus (hm)
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To: sarge83

I am pretty sure if the majority of the armed forces feel that they are being given unconstitutional orders to commit strikes against US citizens that they would balk. Certainly if the President survived decapitation and is broadcasting.
You would have commands fighting commands. But I think the majority would remain loyal to the legitimate President.


204 posted on 07/21/2020 11:31:41 AM PDT by joegoeny ("Nuts!")
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To: PerConPat
Yes, it has been and ever will be thus... Once an economy starts to fail, IMO and only then, will the upheaval whether it be at the ballot box or in the streets will begin in earnest. The average human, in my experience, will endure a great deal of suffering and inconvenience before undertaking the actions that the rugged individualist has long since understood to be necessary.

Watching Charles Payne on Fox Business as I've been posting today. He was just talking about record gold prices today and the "huge breakout" of silver today. It's a crazy Covid economy we have.

205 posted on 07/21/2020 11:37:48 AM PDT by Perseverando (Antifa, BLM, Libs, Progs, Islamonazis, Statists, Commies, DemoKKKrats: It's a Godlessness disorder.)
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To: Perseverando

I agree completely, Clinton, Biden and Killary are all bought out foot soldiers of the PRC. The BLM Antifa crowd are just cannon fodder, a talent search for Che Gueverra types and the rest fertilizer. I pray that Pres. Trump can get a handle on this. This feels different from when Bush was president, they tried some of these things but they get bolder and bolder with each attempt.


206 posted on 07/21/2020 11:38:48 AM PDT by joegoeny ("Nuts!")
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To: Yo-Yo

I’m a little guy. All big people of all colors seem like gorillas to me. I’m size shaming but it’s just payback for experiencing it myself. ;)


207 posted on 07/21/2020 11:38:53 AM PDT by Pollard (whatever)
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To: Pollard

I’m a little guy. All big people of all colors seem like gorillas to me. I’m size shaming but it’s just payback for experiencing it myself. ;)


When bullets are flying you have a height advantage! {:OD


208 posted on 07/21/2020 11:41:10 AM PDT by joegoeny ("Nuts!")
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To: Pollard
I’m a little guy. All big people of all colors seem like gorillas to me. I’m size shaming but it’s just payback for experiencing it myself. ;)

God made man. Samuel Colt (and the U.S. Constitution) made them equal.

209 posted on 07/21/2020 11:43:21 AM PDT by Perseverando (Antifa, BLM, Libs, Progs, Islamonazis, Statists, Commies, DemoKKKrats: It's a Godlessness disorder.)
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To: SmokingJoe

Smoking Joe, you are absolutely right. It is a ferocious thought but even I an old and bent over aged person, can have a roll in the upcoming confrontation. I am a very good shot and don’t look like I can fry an egg.


210 posted on 07/21/2020 11:43:42 AM PDT by Bodega
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To: joegoeny

Not short, just skinny.(5’-10” 125lbs soaking wet) I’ll just stand sideways.


211 posted on 07/21/2020 11:46:50 AM PDT by Pollard (whatever)
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To: arthurus
The parents of the uncivil warriors are young enough that their education included no history and no civics while their children have been actively "educated" to not think and to accept blatant lies. That is the most dangerous condition in the country. Only a minority has any understanding of history and most do not know what has failed and failed again in the past. They will buy into anything that sounds good and lets them participate in something that seems momentous.


212 posted on 07/21/2020 11:48:49 AM PDT by Perseverando (Antifa, BLM, Libs, Progs, Islamonazis, Statists, Commies, DemoKKKrats: It's a Godlessness disorder.)
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To: Perseverando
...record gold prices today and the "huge breakout" of silver today....Long overdue...
213 posted on 07/21/2020 11:52:43 AM PDT by PerConPat (A politician is an animal that can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground--Mencken)
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To: mountainfolk

“Nothing left to lose for Americans who love their country and who will be targets of a communist democrat party takeover of the United States of America. Pretty stark reality facing American voters in November.”


This.

What the Leftist lunatics (but I repeat myself) do not understand - hell, do not WANT to understand - is that Donald Trump is protecting THEM. Much like the 2nd Amendment, if you get rid of Donald Trump then several tens of millions of armed people know exactly what the other side will do (and “the other side” is virtually the same in both cases). The first time that the Leftist get a real opportunity to take over - in the “October Revolution” sense of taking over - they will attempt it because they are so incredibly hungry for power. That is the point at which a great number of well-armed people will realize that they have literally nothing to lose.


214 posted on 07/21/2020 12:04:16 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: SmokingJoe

When push comes to shove, people will defend themselves and worry about the local DA (Soros funded or not) later. Better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6 and all that.

Besides, there are a LOT of states and localities where there are specific castle doctrine laws (like MO), but without the Leftist/Communist DAs - and if and when things get bad and you have dozens or hundreds of people around the country defending themselves, their families and their property in a similar or even in a more, uh, aggressive manner, many of the DAs will slink away to the rocks from which they crawled out. They will understand when it is that people have had enough, and that they and their families may end up being targets of retaliation.


215 posted on 07/21/2020 12:15:15 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Sometimes the store comes to you.


216 posted on 07/21/2020 12:16:48 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Pollard

Not short, just skinny.(5’-10” 125lbs soaking wet) I’ll just stand sideways.


Well camouflage ya in green and you can go in as a sapling!


217 posted on 07/21/2020 12:18:06 PM PDT by joegoeny ("Nuts!")
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To: MHGinTN

“Too many will take the next servile step to do the assaults on citizenry they will be ordered to do under threat of lost income.”


Perhaps so.

On an unrelated note, I often tell my children that every choice that they make, and every action that they take, has consequences.


218 posted on 07/21/2020 12:29:33 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: GOPJ

I agree with a lot of that. When it’s time to recognize that it’s fully on, and not rumors and radical talk and lots of hype about little skirmishes and mobs, and there is real widespread bloodshed, and worse yet, there is a systematic take-over or coup of command and control, civil infrastructure and the blatant suspension of rights not for peace but for oppression and destruction, then the time for pacifism is gone... and those who were actually preparing will probably also die, but at least die fighting.

The point I was making was more about the target list. I just don’t think that if they were the ones who started it all, and they are the ones you suggest taking out because it will reduce or even avert full war, well those are the people who will have had the most advance notice of what was coming and even what they would be doing, and will be long gone before there is any opportunity to stop them.


219 posted on 07/21/2020 12:29:40 PM PDT by z3n
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To: mountainlion
The large cities would be destroyed first like they are now then occupied by gangs. Rural areas would have groups to protect their crops, food and resourced.

I find it somewhat coincidental that today on Fox Business they have had several plugs about interest in tiny homes during the "pandemic."

Hey, you gotta put your bug out bag down somewhere, sometime.

Bantam Built Homes

220 posted on 07/21/2020 12:34:45 PM PDT by Perseverando (Antifa, BLM, Libs, Progs, Islamonazis, Statists, Commies, DemoKKKrats: It's a Godlessness disorder.)
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