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With Florida COVID-19 cases soaring, talk of another shutdown grows louder
Herald Tribune ^ | 07/17/2020 | John Kennedy

Posted on 07/17/2020 4:46:31 PM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

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To: ChicagoConservative27

PRAVDA is flourishing across the USA.


21 posted on 07/17/2020 5:07:12 PM PDT by onyx (#StandWithICE. - #KAG #TRUMP2020Landslide)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Let me guess. Talk by MSM and Democrats.


22 posted on 07/17/2020 5:07:15 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: IrishBrigade

I’m just telling you both numbers are going up. The government decides what you do about that. You can refuse to abide by it, of course, but you should expect to pay the price for doing so. That’s just the reality. Sometimes life sucks.


23 posted on 07/17/2020 5:08:25 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: ChicagoConservative27; gas_dr

Unnecessary because in two weeks the number of new cases will go way down in Florida.


24 posted on 07/17/2020 5:08:48 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: LouieFisk

Yep, if there had been a move to storm the stat capitol I’d have been in it. Unfortunately we little guys don’t have Soros $ and organization to pull off such a thing. The Tea Party was getting good at it until they were squashed.

I have no way of organizing these events or I would and these a$$hole governors know we’re not professional activists with networks etc. Sad to say we were asleep at the wheel and I think it may be too late.

So put on your mask and only lift it to kiss the ring.


25 posted on 07/17/2020 5:10:32 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: LouieFisk

You are incorrect. Somewhere in America we have lost the ability to understand mathematics. It is sad.


26 posted on 07/17/2020 5:12:18 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I agree — we are at the apex and DeSantis reiterated today that the last 4 days demonstrate early trend lines down.


27 posted on 07/17/2020 5:13:13 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: Kenny

“Yep, if there had been a move to storm the stat capitol I’d have been in it.”

Why did you chicken out? You can still do it. Or are you just full off bravado and bragging when you’re at the keyboard? “Well, let someone else do it” is hardly a stirring battle cry.


28 posted on 07/17/2020 5:14:12 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: LouieFisk

So look up the actual trends in terms of testing and get back to me.


29 posted on 07/17/2020 5:14:15 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: LouieFisk

LOL- especially when you count them like this:

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3865723/posts


30 posted on 07/17/2020 5:14:51 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

How much of these increases are really “new” cases or are due to re-counting existing cases as new if they are still active cases day to day ?


31 posted on 07/17/2020 5:15:18 PM PDT by antidemoncrat (uff)
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To: gas_dr

“look up the actual trends in terms of testing”

You need tests to tell if people are dead or not? And what is the “dead test”?


32 posted on 07/17/2020 5:15:58 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: ground_fog
"The cases are frauds. It’s all over America..phony numbers deep state attack. CD is evil and fraudulent."

Most of us on FR know that to be the case. Yet control of the narrative has been lost. More and more Red States are marching to the drumbeat otherwise known as science. The nation is heading back into lockdown.

33 posted on 07/17/2020 5:16:48 PM PDT by buckalfa (Please forgive my feeble attempts at humor, Appalachian education, and condescending snarkiness.)
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To: over3Owithabrain

Yep...I said it in beginning...now I see idiots wearing masks as they walk on the sidewalks in this little resort time...aaaggghhh


34 posted on 07/17/2020 5:18:05 PM PDT by goodnesswins (The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution." -- Saul Alinksy)
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To: goodnesswins

Time s/b town


35 posted on 07/17/2020 5:19:52 PM PDT by goodnesswins (The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution." -- Saul Alinksy)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

“soaring”

...on paper.


36 posted on 07/17/2020 5:20:47 PM PDT by simpson96
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To: goodnesswins

17 Jul: BBC: Hancock calls for urgent review into coronavirus death data in England
Health Secretary Matt Hancock has called for an urgent review into how coronavirus deaths have been recorded in England.
It follows confirmation from Public Health England that reported deaths may have included people who tested positive months before they died.
Other UK nations only include those who die within 28 days of a positive test.

Officials say the publication of daily death figures will be paused while the issue was “resolved”...
A note on the government’s website read: “Currently the daily deaths measure counts all people who have tested positive for coronavirus and since died, with no cut-off between time of testing and date of death...

Prof Carl Heneghan from University of Oxford, who spotted the issue with the data, told the BBC there was “huge variation” in the numbers of daily deaths reported in England by PHE.
While NHS England currently reports 30-35 deaths per day, Public Health England (PHE) data often shows double that or more, he said.
The reason is that anyone who has tested positive for coronavirus but then died at a later date of another cause would still be included in PHE’s Covid-19 death figures.

“By this PHE definition, no one with Covid in England is allowed to ever recover from their illness,” Prof Heneghan says.
“We need correct and accurate statistics so we can really understand the trend - otherwise it’s very difficult to know what’s going on,” he added.
Figures release from PHE today show that just under 10% of coronavirus deaths in England happened more than 28 days after a positive test.
In almost half of those cases, Covid-19 was recorded as the main cause of death...

Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales only include deaths in their daily count if someone died within 28 days of a positive test...

Dr Susan Hopkins, from Public Health England, said there was no agreed method of counting deaths from Covid-19.
“In England, we count all those that have died who had a positive Covid-19 test at any point, to ensure our data is as complete as possible...
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53443724

behind paywall:

17 Jul: UK Telegraph: Matt Hancock launches inquiry into true PHE coronavirus death figures
Government source says car accident fatality could have been counted, raising concerns true toll of virus has been inflated
By Henry Bodkin
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/07/17/matt-hancock-launches-inquiry-true-phe-coronavirus-death-figures/


37 posted on 07/17/2020 5:20:52 PM PDT by MAGAthon (g)
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To: gas_dr
"DeSantis reiterated today that the last 4 days demonstrate early trend lines down."
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38 posted on 07/17/2020 5:23:09 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: LouieFisk

Seriously, how are the numbers going up? Relative to what? Do you have a source? I tried to look up the Florida numbers, but all I got were totals so far.

No week-by-week breakdown of cases, deaths, hospitalizations and recoveries.

THAT is the real data.

Totals are almost worthless.


39 posted on 07/17/2020 5:25:48 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The prisons do not fill themselves. Get moving, Barr!)
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To: LouieFisk
Today's favorite phony virus death news in Otown.
Motorcyclist’s death attributed to the China virus.
Golly see any fraud here .
Or the 300 FL labs caught reporting 100 % positive virus cases and
then they corrected their counts down to under 10 % .
40 posted on 07/17/2020 5:26:48 PM PDT by ncalburt (Gop DC Globalists .)
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