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To: jazusamo

People should stop calling John Roberts a liberal. At worst, he is an unreliable conservative. No liberal in the nation will vote for the death penalty in 2020.


3 posted on 07/15/2020 2:10:45 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: nwrep; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; LS; Galactic Overlord-In-Chief
>> People should stop calling John Roberts a liberal. At worst, he is an unreliable conservative. No liberal in the nation will vote for the death penalty in 2020. <<

Valid point. Roberts has turned traitor on a handful of important cases but is nowhere near as bad as a far-left liberal activist judge wearing a GOP jersey, like for example Earl Warren.

Impy pointed out that out to be when I rating GOP presidents success in naming solid conservative judges, and I rated GWHB 1-1, GWB 1-1, and Trump 0-2 (NEITHER Trump appointee has proven to be a solid conservative who will overturn leftist "precedents" like Roe v. Wade and homo marriage)

Impy said that was unfair and noted that wobbly conservatives are nowhere near as bad as outright leftist scum and said I should put three categories.

But to me, if really only a win-lose scenario with SCOTUS appointments -- you either succeed at moving the court to the right with your appointee, or you fail. There is no "almost succeeded" category, just like is only a WIN-LOSE outcome for a football team at the Superbowl, not a third category for "played really well overall but didn't quite make it"

In any case, FReepers routinely howl at Roberts stabbing us in the back from time to time and act like's a RAT judge in a R jersey, but Trump's faux "originalist" judge Gorsuch has actually ended up Robert's LEFT on at least three notable cases already: 1) Ruling nearly half of Oklahoma is an Indian Reservation (5-4 ruling, Roberts voted with the conservative bloc but Gorsuch was the "lone GOP judge" voting with the four RAT judges), 2) Being on the LOSING, liberal side that OPPOSED the 5-4 decision upholding that a criminal defendant can be sentenced for violating his supervised release (it was 5-4 in our favor because Ruth Bader GINSBURG of all people, voted with the conservatives, while Gorsuch voted with Kagan, Sotomayor, and Breyer!), and 3) Again being the "lone GOP judge" to vote with 4 commies on a 5-4 decision striking down a federal law that punishes Criminal Defendants as 'unconstitutionally vague' (FReepers tried to spin that one as "Scalia voted the same way", which was BS, Scalia's decision was on a 9-0 case that had totally different circumstances).

Now, Gorsuch is nowhere near as bad as an "Earl Warren" type judge either, but if FReepers are going to screech about Bush appoint Roberts, maybe they should be having second thoughts about applauding Trump for appointing Gorsuch.

52 posted on 07/15/2020 6:55:29 PM PDT by BillyBoy ('States Rights' is NOT a suicide pact.)
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