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To: little jeremiah; NEMDF
“Cases” include “probables/presumptive” which means any contacts a positive test person had over the last week or whatever. Whether they have symptoms or not. Even a presumptive’s (not tested or not positive) contacts can be counted.

Why make stuff like this up? Why mislead fellow FReepers?

From the CDC:

"A probable case or death is defined by one of the following:


23 posted on 07/14/2020 1:55:46 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: semimojo

Last night Mark Levin was talking about the fact that some tables of COVID death stats he was looking at last week had suddenly been removed from their website.

Someone got caught with their hand in the cookie jar.


24 posted on 07/14/2020 1:56:41 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: semimojo

My husband was hospitalized in April with symptoms that are common for Covid-19, but tested negative. But, based on this criteria, he was probably counted as positive, then they probably added 10-15 people he might have been around in the 2 weeks prior.


36 posted on 07/14/2020 2:36:08 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: semimojo; NEMDF
That's not what I read directly on the CDC within the last couple of weeks. I'll try to find. Attempting to search CDC is not easy, naturally. Let's see what I can dig up.

Link, which I did see on the CDC site but can't find now, seems they may not want people to know this, please click link to see all the info, I can't copy it. And probable cases are mixed with positive tests although this document may not state that:

NEW Covid-19 Case Definions.pdf

And in case anyone wants more evidence, read the article below.

CDC Grossly Overcounting Active China Coronavirus Cases Causing States to Keep Their Economies Closed Indefinitely

Snip, more at link:

A report released Thursday from the Government Accountability Office levied criticism at the CDC for combining active cases of the coronavirus and positive antibody tests, which may give a misleading view of nationwide testing and spread.

41 posted on 07/14/2020 2:57:44 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: semimojo
Meeting clinical criteria AND epidemiologic evidence with no confirmatory laboratory testing performed for COVID-19 Meeting presumptive laboratory evidence AND either clinical criteria OR epidemiologic evidence Meeting vital records criteria with no confirmatory laboratory testing performed for COVID19""

How very naive to think that clinical criteria and epidemiological evidence can not be in the eye of the beholder. We know for a fact that the numbers are being inflated for political reasons (vote by mail, harm the economy, instill fear). So your defence of the CDC rings hollow.

53 posted on 07/15/2020 5:20:12 AM PDT by The Toddler (He that tooteth not his own horn; The . (I'm ssame shall not be tooted.)
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