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The administration orders hospitals to bypass the C.D.C. with key virus data, alarming health experts.
nytimes ^ | 7/14/2020

Posted on 07/14/2020 1:35:58 PM PDT by bitt

The Trump administration has ordered hospitals to bypass the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and, beginning on Wednesday, send all coronavirus patient information to a central database in Washington — a move that has alarmed public health experts who fear the data will be distorted for political gain.

The new instructions are contained in a little-noticed document posted this week on the Department of Health and Human Services’ website, Sheryl Gay Stolberg reports. From now on, H.H.S., and not the C.D.C., will collect daily reports about the patients that each hospital is treating, how many beds and ventilators are available, and other information vital to tracking the pandemic.

Officials said the change should help ease data gathering and assist the White House coronavirus task force in allocating scarce supplies like personal protective gear and the drug remdesivir.

Hospital officials want to streamline reporting, saying it will relieve them from responding to requests from multiple federal agencies, though some say the C.D.C. — an agency that prizes its scientific independence — should be in charge of gathering the information.

“The C.D.C. is the right agency to be at the forefront of collecting the data,” said Dr. Bala Hota, the chief analytics officer at Rush University Medical Center in Chicago. Public health experts have long expressed concerns that the administration is politicizing science and undermining the disease control centers; four former C.D.C. directors, spanning both Republican and Democratic administrations, said as much in an opinion piece published Tuesday in The Washington Post. The data collection shift reinforced those fears.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cdc; chinavirusdata; virusdata
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To: semimojo; NEMDF
That's not what I read directly on the CDC within the last couple of weeks. I'll try to find. Attempting to search CDC is not easy, naturally. Let's see what I can dig up.

Link, which I did see on the CDC site but can't find now, seems they may not want people to know this, please click link to see all the info, I can't copy it. And probable cases are mixed with positive tests although this document may not state that:

NEW Covid-19 Case Definions.pdf

And in case anyone wants more evidence, read the article below.

CDC Grossly Overcounting Active China Coronavirus Cases Causing States to Keep Their Economies Closed Indefinitely

Snip, more at link:

A report released Thursday from the Government Accountability Office levied criticism at the CDC for combining active cases of the coronavirus and positive antibody tests, which may give a misleading view of nationwide testing and spread.

41 posted on 07/14/2020 2:57:44 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: semimojo

Trump’s CDC? It’s an agency that has not been cleaned out yet.

Hopefully soon. It’s basically an arm of the pharmaceutical companies with the mission to get people vaccinated.


42 posted on 07/14/2020 2:59:02 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: bitt; All
Too late. Besides, everyone in the chain gets paid for their fraud participation.

Trump reminds me of Mr. Rogers. “A beautiful day in the neighborhood.”

He misses the rampant fraud and illegal activity all around the country.

43 posted on 07/14/2020 3:04:15 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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To: bitt

Anything that alarms the NY Times is OK in my book.


44 posted on 07/14/2020 3:11:41 PM PDT by Renkluaf
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To: Cobra64

(None so blind as he who doesn’t wanna see.)

So you gonna vote for Bitem? Or write in Sanders?


45 posted on 07/14/2020 3:14:31 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: SamuraiScot

And that is how you make 300 votes appear for Hillary vs 6 votes for Trump from 51 actual vote scan ballots as was what had happened in a voting precinct in Detroit...

The Dems really don’t change their methods...do they?


46 posted on 07/14/2020 3:19:41 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: little jeremiah

Yes, 100%. Please, please, PLEASE...gut the CDC soon.


47 posted on 07/14/2020 3:29:08 PM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: little jeremiah
That's not what I read directly on the CDC within the last couple of weeks. I'll try to find.

I gave you the link. Here it is again:

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

And probable cases are mixed with positive tests although this document may not state that:

That's from a local government presentation given in Collin County, TX weeks ago. The current definition from the CDC, which is the agency setting the rules and reporting the cases, is at the link I gave you.

A report released Thursday from the Government Accountability Office levied criticism at the CDC for combining active cases of the coronavirus and positive antibody tests...

Yes, six weeks ago when that report came out there was still some mixing of PRC and serology test reporting. I notice there's nothing here about this idiotic notion that they're counting random contacts as cases.

48 posted on 07/14/2020 3:32:06 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: little jeremiah

Huh?


49 posted on 07/14/2020 3:50:41 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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To: bitt

Projecting much cdc?


50 posted on 07/14/2020 5:20:34 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
Who’s this kinky so-and-so?

Bon marche as far as she can tell.

51 posted on 07/14/2020 8:42:11 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: Wilderness Conservative

Wonderful idea! Would really like to see this happen. I wish President Trump had caught on to them sooner.


52 posted on 07/14/2020 8:47:20 PM PDT by AmericanMermaid
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To: semimojo
Meeting clinical criteria AND epidemiologic evidence with no confirmatory laboratory testing performed for COVID-19 Meeting presumptive laboratory evidence AND either clinical criteria OR epidemiologic evidence Meeting vital records criteria with no confirmatory laboratory testing performed for COVID19""

How very naive to think that clinical criteria and epidemiological evidence can not be in the eye of the beholder. We know for a fact that the numbers are being inflated for political reasons (vote by mail, harm the economy, instill fear). So your defence of the CDC rings hollow.

53 posted on 07/15/2020 5:20:12 AM PDT by The Toddler (He that tooteth not his own horn; The . (I'm ssame shall not be tooted.)
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To: bitt

It’s already distorted


54 posted on 07/15/2020 5:24:25 AM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: NEMDF

Close contacts of positives are considered probable cases, and at least some state and local governments have been including probable cases in the new case counts.

Who the heck knows what the damn CDC is doing.


55 posted on 07/15/2020 5:25:30 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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