Morning all.
THE BIG QUESTION IS ARE FLORIDA’S NUMBERS OFF BY AT LEAST 25-30% AND MAYBE A LOT MORE THAN THAT.
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/data-suggest-floridas-record-breaking-coronavirus-days-may-have-been-0
State officials give conflicting responses
Though the Department of Health clearly ties “event dates” to the onset of symptoms in many cases, state health department representatives gave a series of conflicting responses when questioned about the matter.
Asked about the difference between chart dates and event dates, a department official said in an email to Just the News: “Event date will be updated as more information is gathered about the case. For instance, we would not know the person’s onset date when we received the lab result.”
“The county interviews the individual and determines their onset date,” the official added, “so the ‘event date’ would change.”
Further queries seeking clarification on the state’s data-gathering practices were eventually met with a reply from Alberto Moscoso, the director of the health department’s Office of Communications.
“Epidemiologists collect information that informs the Department of Health of an individual’s symptoms, contacts and location of where they may have acquired COVID-19,” he told Just the News.
“The first date of entry in answer to any question, COVID-related or not, is designated the event date,” he continued. “The average period of incubation for COVID-19 is about 5 days, with the longest period of incubation being 14 days. It is important to keep this in mind as many event dates are listed months before the onset of the illness.”
“Thus, the event date should be viewed as the first date noted as part of an epidemiological investigation, and not be interpreted as the onset date for COVID-19,” he added. “In some situations, the event date may represent the onset of COVID-19 symptoms or when the individual tested positive.”
Moscoso’s claim that the event date should “not be interpreted as the onset date for COVID-19” appears to conflict at least partially with both the state’s posted definition of the term as well as the earlier email from the health department suggesting that the onset of illness is tied directly to the “event date.”
Just the News requested further clarification on these discrepancies; eventually the health department simply copied and pasted Mosoco’s earlier reply and re-sent it.
Determining the onset date of symptoms is critical for public health officials in determining the current course of the pandemic, as unclear or misplaced data can scramble key epidemiological indicators used to determine a disease’s path in a given community.
Data problems have cropped up in numerous other localities as well. The Texas health department, for instance, this week revealed that it lacks illness-onset data for nine out of every ten coronavirus infections reported in the state.
Los Angeles County, meanwhile, posted a record number of coronavirus cases on Tuesday of this week, but the state admitted that the huge increase came “in part” as a result of a few thousand backlogged cases.
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Here is what is actually going on from an impeccible FR source:
I don’t believe any of the stats because I talk to doctors from the regions affected and they say: much of this is BS. They’ve been told to “shut up and not talk to the press” by several CEOs of the companies they work for. One of them told me: he prescribed the drug”’cocktail” to his patient and the pharmacist called him saying could not fill it unless the patient was hospitalized( guidelines coming from the CDC). The doctor had an absolute fit and said the pharmacist had NO jurisdiction to refuse letting the pt. have the drugs. He(the doctor) threatened to call the Pharmacy Board and the pharmacist relented.
Simply Orwellian.
People better wake up.
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Take into account that renown doctors like Judy Mikovits and doctor Buchard think that what we are doing is unnecessary and most likely counter productive.Especially when it comes to wearing masks:
https://fort-russ.com/2020/06/exposed-does-wearing-a-mask-do-anything/
See the following clip:
"Disposable medical masks are loose-fitting devices that were designed to be worn by medical personnel to protect accidental contamination of patient wounds, and to protect the wearer against splashes or sprays of bodily fluids. There is limited evidence for their effectiveness in preventing influenza virus transmission either when worn by the infected person for source control or when worn by uninfected persons to reduce exposure. Our systematic review found no significant effect of face masks on transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza."
"In fact, not only is there substantial evidence masks will not prevent you getting sick, there is some evidence they could actually be counter-productive."
A trial of cloth masks in 2015 found that:
Moisture retention, reuse of cloth masks and poor filtration may result in an increased risk of infection.
There’s also the issue of other possible complications, such as hypercapnia, an excess of carbon dioxide in the blood caused by re-breathing your own expelled air. It’s also been shown that mask use can exacerbate chronic obstructive pulmonary disorder (COPD) and perhaps other respiratory issues. There’s also the question of possible psychological harm.
The benefits of mask-wearing are, at best, unproven. The dangers, unknown. You wouldn’t expect this simple scientific question to be in any way controversial.
And yet…
In April, physicist Denis Rancourt published a research review on ResearchGate.com entitled “Masks Don’t Work: A review of science relevant to COVID-19 social policy”. After receiving over 400,000 views, it was summarily removed for “spreading information that could cause harm”.
Clearly the establishment really wants us to wear masks.
What’s less clear is why."
\ ........... The problem in addition to the above is that death from covid is misstated. Most likely covid 19 adds to pre-existing conditions.A 20 year old person contacts covid or it found to have it through a random check,didnt even know he had it,and is counted as a statistic.He is but to what end.
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Meanwhile, a 75 year old overweight male who smoked all his life contacts covid while in the hospital,or not. He dies and his COD,cause of death, is listed as covid 19. Was it really? Or, was it the underlying condition of having smoked for 50 years. The answer is apparent.
Truth be know the common flu,a common cold or any one of many difference illnesses could likely have caused this person to die. What would his COD have been under those circumstances?Hard to say.
The stats are being spiked really bad when it comes to covid deaths and now we see even the daily cases are being spiked to look like they are far more than they really are.
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https://www.businessinsider.com/hypertension-diabetes-conditions-that-make-coronavirus-more-deadly-2020-3?op=1#in-italy-761-of-patients-who-died-from-covid-19-had-hypertension-or-high-blood-pressure-1
In Italy, 76.1% of patients who died from COVID-19 had hypertension, or high blood pressure.
Diabetes was the second most common condition among COVID-19 patients who died: 35.5% had the illness.
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On and on it goes pre-existing conditions are usually the cause of death and are only exaccerbated by corona19 as would be expected.So what is the real true cause of death?
This makes the 130k odd deaths in the US suspect of more political finagling.
Better for those in the death range from 70 on up to take good care of themselves and let the rest of the population go on about it’s business.These shutdowns cause little else but stress on those who need to work for a living.
I think the two most thematic events going on now are PDJT and Betsy DeVos fighting the teacher’s union on opening back the schools. Notice the unions are calling out the hated charter schools as they give a modicum of choice.
DeVos is on two shows today.
The second unfolding event, and not getting enough attention, is the Missouri couple having their home illegally (IMO) searched and their gun(s) confiscated. Not on Sunday shows.
I stole the following from a fellow Freepers:
“The prosecutoress is a notorious Soros-owned POS - Kimberly M. Gardner.
She was involved in the political attacks on Eric Greitens, and released ALL of the rioters after the various violent thuggery in St. Louis in May-June 2020.”
Soros is the root. Taking our 2nd amendment rights away to defend our homes is paramount to stopping the government from taking ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING they want from you. Soros has to be stopped. I hope PDJT and DOJ have something in process- which they obviously could not divulge - to stop Soros. Faster please!
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2020/07/10/texas-gop-sues-houston-mayor-for-cancelling-convention-n2572287
The bottom line - We have been lied to by virtually everyone
Guess they couldn’t find any Trump-hating RINOs this morning...huh.
Any word on whether the NBC talking head show has provided an update on the health status of Joseph Fair?
My Phoenix Mayor Gallego is enjoying her time on the BIG STAGE, but has been making stuff up about COVID. Hospitals have publicly corrected her.
. Anna Palmer and Kristen Welker explain how the Trump base feels - without one comment ringing true. LOL - I doubt either bimbo has ever even met a Trump supporter outside a focus group... Yeah real 'experts'.
That's lame Chuck...
FOX should do a Sunday night parody of the morning talk shows... The 'Meet the Press' parody could have two airheads pontificating on Biden's base... The bimbo playing Kristen Welker could pretend great concern for Biden (while dripping with hatred for him...) and waxing on and on about 'how Biden's base feels'... Of course getting it all wrong.
Where does Chuck get these women? Carnival fortune tellers wannabees?
below is the post:
1/5/20(Sun)15:18
One final thing. If this goes hot their are weapons that we may use that are off the chart. This will not be a war this will be a slaughter of biblical proportions. Let the Iranians run their ...... mouths. We can right now take out every Mullah and the senior military in the blink of an eye. We have some folks to see now.