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To: Alas Babylon!
As a long time resident of Fla. I took notice when our state was consistently ranked high in the national covid19 rankings day after day. Our leadership is taking hit after hit for doing what they should be doing: opening things up.So if you look into it a little bit you see that everything is not what it appears especially when it comes to supposed deaths by covid19.Are they really all due to covid or are their other variables.Below are some answers.

THE BIG QUESTION IS ARE FLORIDA’S NUMBERS OFF BY AT LEAST 25-30% AND MAYBE A LOT MORE THAN THAT.

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/data-suggest-floridas-record-breaking-coronavirus-days-may-have-been-0

State officials give conflicting responses

Though the Department of Health clearly ties “event dates” to the onset of symptoms in many cases, state health department representatives gave a series of conflicting responses when questioned about the matter.

Asked about the difference between chart dates and event dates, a department official said in an email to Just the News: “Event date will be updated as more information is gathered about the case. For instance, we would not know the person’s onset date when we received the lab result.”

“The county interviews the individual and determines their onset date,” the official added, “so the ‘event date’ would change.”

Further queries seeking clarification on the state’s data-gathering practices were eventually met with a reply from Alberto Moscoso, the director of the health department’s Office of Communications.

“Epidemiologists collect information that informs the Department of Health of an individual’s symptoms, contacts and location of where they may have acquired COVID-19,” he told Just the News.

“The first date of entry in answer to any question, COVID-related or not, is designated the event date,” he continued. “The average period of incubation for COVID-19 is about 5 days, with the longest period of incubation being 14 days. It is important to keep this in mind as many event dates are listed months before the onset of the illness.”

“Thus, the event date should be viewed as the first date noted as part of an epidemiological investigation, and not be interpreted as the onset date for COVID-19,” he added. “In some situations, the event date may represent the onset of COVID-19 symptoms or when the individual tested positive.”

Moscoso’s claim that the event date should “not be interpreted as the onset date for COVID-19” appears to conflict at least partially with both the state’s posted definition of the term as well as the earlier email from the health department suggesting that the onset of illness is tied directly to the “event date.”

Just the News requested further clarification on these discrepancies; eventually the health department simply copied and pasted Mosoco’s earlier reply and re-sent it.

Determining the onset date of symptoms is critical for public health officials in determining the current course of the pandemic, as unclear or misplaced data can scramble key epidemiological indicators used to determine a disease’s path in a given community.

Data problems have cropped up in numerous other localities as well. The Texas health department, for instance, this week revealed that it lacks illness-onset data for nine out of every ten coronavirus infections reported in the state.

Los Angeles County, meanwhile, posted a record number of coronavirus cases on Tuesday of this week, but the state admitted that the huge increase came “in part” as a result of a few thousand backlogged cases.

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Here is what is actually going on from an impeccible FR source:

I don’t believe any of the stats because I talk to doctors from the regions affected and they say: much of this is BS. They’ve been told to “shut up and not talk to the press” by several CEOs of the companies they work for. One of them told me: he prescribed the drug”’cocktail” to his patient and the pharmacist called him saying could not fill it unless the patient was hospitalized( guidelines coming from the CDC). The doctor had an absolute fit and said the pharmacist had NO jurisdiction to refuse letting the pt. have the drugs. He(the doctor) threatened to call the Pharmacy Board and the pharmacist relented.

Simply Orwellian.

People better wake up.

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Take into account that renown doctors like Judy Mikovits and doctor Buchard think that what we are doing is unnecessary and most likely counter productive.Especially when it comes to wearing masks:

https://fort-russ.com/2020/06/exposed-does-wearing-a-mask-do-anything/

See the following clip:

"Disposable medical masks are loose-fitting devices that were designed to be worn by medical personnel to protect accidental contamination of patient wounds, and to protect the wearer against splashes or sprays of bodily fluids. There is limited evidence for their effectiveness in preventing influenza virus transmission either when worn by the infected person for source control or when worn by uninfected persons to reduce exposure. Our systematic review found no significant effect of face masks on transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza."

"In fact, not only is there substantial evidence masks will not prevent you getting sick, there is some evidence they could actually be counter-productive."

A trial of cloth masks in 2015 found that:

Moisture retention, reuse of cloth masks and poor filtration may result in an increased risk of infection.

There’s also the issue of other possible complications, such as hypercapnia, an excess of carbon dioxide in the blood caused by re-breathing your own expelled air. It’s also been shown that mask use can exacerbate chronic obstructive pulmonary disorder (COPD) and perhaps other respiratory issues. There’s also the question of possible psychological harm.

The benefits of mask-wearing are, at best, unproven. The dangers, unknown. You wouldn’t expect this simple scientific question to be in any way controversial.

And yet…

In April, physicist Denis Rancourt published a research review on ResearchGate.com entitled “Masks Don’t Work: A review of science relevant to COVID-19 social policy”. After receiving over 400,000 views, it was summarily removed for “spreading information that could cause harm”.

Clearly the establishment really wants us to wear masks.

What’s less clear is why."

\ ........... The problem in addition to the above is that death from covid is misstated. Most likely covid 19 adds to pre-existing conditions.A 20 year old person contacts covid or it found to have it through a random check,didnt even know he had it,and is counted as a statistic.He is but to what end.

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Meanwhile, a 75 year old overweight male who smoked all his life contacts covid while in the hospital,or not. He dies and his COD,cause of death, is listed as covid 19. Was it really? Or, was it the underlying condition of having smoked for 50 years. The answer is apparent.

Truth be know the common flu,a common cold or any one of many difference illnesses could likely have caused this person to die. What would his COD have been under those circumstances?Hard to say.

The stats are being spiked really bad when it comes to covid deaths and now we see even the daily cases are being spiked to look like they are far more than they really are.

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https://www.businessinsider.com/hypertension-diabetes-conditions-that-make-coronavirus-more-deadly-2020-3?op=1#in-italy-761-of-patients-who-died-from-covid-19-had-hypertension-or-high-blood-pressure-1

In Italy, 76.1% of patients who died from COVID-19 had hypertension, or high blood pressure.

Diabetes was the second most common condition among COVID-19 patients who died: 35.5% had the illness.

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On and on it goes pre-existing conditions are usually the cause of death and are only exaccerbated by corona19 as would be expected.So what is the real true cause of death?

This makes the 130k odd deaths in the US suspect of more political finagling.

Better for those in the death range from 70 on up to take good care of themselves and let the rest of the population go on about it’s business.These shutdowns cause little else but stress on those who need to work for a living.

12 posted on 07/12/2020 5:18:46 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic home of free because of the Brave)
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To: rodguy911
NJ: Every day they announce 50 or so more deaths from months ago. It's incredible. Day of death curve shows 1 or 2 July deaths.

Look at how many deaths Virginia has been 'reporting' the last 2 weeks. Now look at their Date of Death graph. They have been sneaking in 15-20 backlogged deaths a day.

Virginia Deaths by Reporting Date.

65% of the deaths with COVID reported by CDC this week occurred more than four weeks ago.


96 posted on 07/12/2020 7:35:12 AM PDT by kabar
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To: rodguy911

Hats off to the reporter who did some actual reporting, instead of trying to create fear and hysteria.

Our local hospitals are “full” because so many elective surgeries have been canceled and often rather benign surgery cases have turned into complex ones because of the delay. So many staff were furloughed that they brought in relief staff. They do not know each other and this has contributed to some problems, especially in the surgical suites.

I recently had to have knee surgery and it was quite disconcerting to hear the surgeon and the anesthesiologist actually yelling at each other!

I heard a lot of very frustrated and angry personnel complaining that they had to follow CDC guidelines that made so sense at all.

Had I been able to see an ortho earlier(where an injection might have helped), with PTs and gyms closed, I ended up having to have this surgery. There is a 2 week delay in being able to see this ortho surgeon post after my surgery, due to backlog.

I will be watching the doctors today to see if they are still following the Fauci doctrine, which seems to change every day. I heard him whining that he is not on TV as much anymore because “some people do not want to hear the truth”.


112 posted on 07/12/2020 7:50:42 AM PDT by pugmama (Come fly with me.)
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