[mass55th]

I agree with you, that looting, destruction of property, people getting beaten up, arson, etc., should all be dealt with when it happens. No raucous groups should be allowed to organize, to gain control of an area. We've all seen plenty of that crap happening, and nothing being done about it. But, unless you have enough back-up to go in and take care of business, and unless you have orders from the people over you, then you don't take it upon yourself to make that decision on your own. Because if it goes bad, it's your ass that will be hanging out in the wind, not your supervisor's. In these times, you have to go with the notion that nobody above you is going to have your back. You do what you are told, and nothing more, because doing more can get you locked up, fired, or dead. It's not worth it.

To me, it appears that most police agencies, especially in Democrat-run cities are extremely hesitant to use force of any kind, no matter what the situation. And that's not a good thing. You have to send a message to these morons that you're not going to put up with their crap. But it's not being done. Look what's been going on in Congress. Gen. Milliey and Mike Esper have had to appear, and justify why they used the military to back up law enforcement to clear Lafayette Park. In a sane world that would never happen. They should be thanked for getting rid of the scum. Instead, they're being brow-beaten by the liberals who will always second-guess what the police and military do, but not themselves. And of course those bastards have the media in their pocket. The police and military are always going to be demonized, no matter what they do.

Personally, I don't know how these cops are able to go to work everyday, knowing what waits for them. Morale has to be at an all-time low. They only have each other, because as far as the brass, and the politicians are concerned, the officer is expendable. When I worked in Corrections, when it came to the Administration and Albany, we always felt like we were one-step below the convicts. In the NYPD, and the other law enforcement agents in Democrat-run city, I'm sure they feel they are one step below the criminals, and in the eyes of the politicians, they are.

[dragnet2]

I understand why the cops are holding back. It would be suicide not to. Shoot the wrong suspect, right or wrong, and your face is on the front page while people are attempting to locate and lynch you. This isn’t complex. And hesitation will only cost more cops their lives.

Lots are quitting or taking earlier retirement. My point was if ya take an oath to uphold the law then are told not to, doesn’t work for me... But it’s there choice. I would not put myself or leave myself in that type of situation. That’s just me.