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New ICE guidelines say international students must leave the U.S. if classes go online
LA Times ^ | July 7, 2020 6:56 AM | Staff

Posted on 07/07/2020 9:50:45 AM PDT by Red Badger

International students will be forced to leave the U.S. or transfer to another college if their schools offer classes entirely online this fall, under new guidelines issued Monday by federal immigration authorities.

The guidelines, issued by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, provide additional pressure for universities to reopen even amid growing concerns about the recent spread of COVID-19 among young adults. Colleges received the guidance the same day that some institutions, including Harvard University, announced that all instruction will be offered remotely.

President Trump has insisted that schools and colleges return to in-person instruction as soon as possible. Soon after the guidance was released, Trump repeated on Twitter that schools must reopen this fall, adding that Democrats want to keep schools closed “for political reasons, not for health reasons.”

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1 posted on 07/07/2020 9:50:45 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

I’ll match your shutdown with deportations.


2 posted on 07/07/2020 9:54:45 AM PDT by 2banana (Common ground with islamic terrorists-they want to die for allah and we want to arrange the meeting)
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To: 2banana

“Play along with the Democrats’ little game of keeping the economy depressed and I’ll eliminate all of your sweet income from foreign student tuition”.

Once again, playing 4D chess.


3 posted on 07/07/2020 9:56:54 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
“Play along with the Democrats’ little game of keeping the economy depressed and I’ll eliminate all of your sweet income from foreign student tuition”.

So the students now go to their home countries, continue to pay tuition to the universities and take online classes, but no longer stimulate our economy by paying rent, eating in restaurants, shopping, etc.

Once again, playing 4D chess.

This sounds like double-reverse one handed underwater 4D chess.

4 posted on 07/07/2020 10:01:07 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: Red Badger
One of my students is still living in his college dorm. He's stuck there because his home country in the Mid-East hasn't opened the border yet.

Our university went to all on-line in the middle of March. Poor guy has nowhere to go.

Reminds me of that Tom Hanks film where he's stuck in an airport.

5 posted on 07/07/2020 10:01:41 AM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: Red Badger

Has a judge in an obscure court district ruled on this yet?


6 posted on 07/07/2020 10:01:53 AM PDT by CatOwner
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To: semimojo

And they no longer get to steal our intellectual property and technology. I’m sure for some 39 year old ‘’students’’ this is going to be hard.


7 posted on 07/07/2020 10:03:09 AM PDT by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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To: Red Badger

I’m not really a fan of coercing colleges into in-class teaching via this route.

Just get the government out of funding higher ed—and get illegals out of our country.


8 posted on 07/07/2020 10:03:21 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: semimojo
So the students now go to their home countries, continue to pay tuition to the universities and take online classes, but no longer stimulate our economy by paying rent, eating in restaurants, shopping, etc.

If they are Chinese they're gonna have difficulty accessing it through the Great Firewall. Bigger hit on the universities too as they lose out on room and board and other residency fees. And if it works it sort of undercuts the whole argument for giving them student visas and bringing them here in the first place, doesn't it?

This sounds like double-reverse one handed underwater 4D chess.

Not if your goal is to scare universities away from playing along. Scores of administrators out there are soiling their underwear today I asssure you.

Volley. Your serve.


9 posted on 07/07/2020 10:10:03 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: 9YearLurker

Trump was able to do this overnight.

The ideas you listed take months, more likely years.


10 posted on 07/07/2020 10:12:50 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

From a practical standpoint we should probably maintain a travel ban on China for quite long time. They could spring another pandemic on us at any time.


11 posted on 07/07/2020 10:15:36 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: Red Badger

Everyone is pretending this is a NEW rule. It isn’t. F1 visas have long required in-person classes rather than online. (I think one online class was permitted)


12 posted on 07/07/2020 10:17:45 AM PDT by Drango (1776 = 2020)
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To: billorites

“Poor guy has nowhere to go.”

Maybe we could do a Go-Fund-Me and send him to flight school.


13 posted on 07/07/2020 10:19:29 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: semimojo

Online students continue to fund US universities but won’t be eligible for various visas used by big business to get around H1B visa limits.

They’d work as a “student” and a year or two after graduation while applying for residency and H1B visas, screwing American graduates out of jobs across the board. That’s aside from the L-1 visa that Obama abused to let the spouses of H1B visa holders illegally work in the US.

Thousands of foreign students in U.S. on student visas may have ‘worked’ for fake companies
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/thousands-foreign-students-u-s-student-visas-may-have-worked-n1109286


14 posted on 07/07/2020 10:22:42 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: semimojo
“So the students now go to their home countries, continue to pay tuition to the universities and take online classes, but no longer stimulate our economy by paying rent, eating in restaurants, shopping, etc.“

I sense that you are on the side of globalist “free trade”. Next you will say out economy will suffer because these foreign students will not be able to work in America and multinational corporations will be forced to hire stupid Americans.

15 posted on 07/07/2020 10:24:24 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck ("Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither.")
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16 posted on 07/07/2020 10:25:15 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: Balding_Eagle

But the value of this? IMO it is negative. Will force more colleges to stick to in-class teaching. Now way too costly and inefficient for the amount of learning that is taking place. I’m fine with kicking foreign students out for now, but this contingency is counterproductive. Also, if indeed they spring a nastier bug on us this fall, that’ll likely make the instructors, especially, sitting ducks for the new bioweapon.


17 posted on 07/07/2020 10:25:30 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Enterprise

IT MAKES SENSE.
If classes are available on line then there is no need to be here.....................


18 posted on 07/07/2020 10:26:05 AM PDT by Red Badger (To a liberal, 9-11 was 'illegal fireworks activity'..........................)
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To: 2banana

Not to worry universities are working on this. Berkeley is building single pods for one class that the anthropology department is setting up. I’m sure other colleges will follow suit.


19 posted on 07/07/2020 10:28:32 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Scores of administrators out there are soiling their underwear today I asssure you.

If the goal is simply to hurt the universities I guess this might make some sense. Not sure that's a great objective for the federal government, but fine.

There's no question this will also hurt private landlords and restaurant owners as well.

And the students will get the same education and the universities will get the same tuition.

20 posted on 07/07/2020 10:29:09 AM PDT by semimojo
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