The Democrat Plan
Posted on 07/05/2020 1:24:16 PM PDT by DoodleBob
Within days of the first confirmed novel coronavirus case in the United States on 20 January, antivaccine activists were already hinting on Twitter that the virus was a scam—part of a plot to profit from an eventual vaccine.
Nearly half a year later, scientists around the world are rushing to create a COVID-19 vaccine. An approved product is still months, if not years, away and public health agencies have not yet mounted campaigns to promote it. But health communication experts say they need to start to lay the groundwork for acceptance now, because the flood of misinformation from antivaccine activists has surged.
Such activists have “kicked into overdrive,” says Neil Johnson, a physicist at George Washington University who studies the dynamics of antivaccine groups on social networks. He estimates that in recent months, 10% of the Facebook pages run by people asking questions about vaccines have already switched to antivaccine views.
Recent polls have found as few as 50% of people in the United States are committed to receiving a vaccine, with another quarter wavering. Some of the communities most at risk from the virus are also the most leery: Among Black people, who account for nearly one-quarter of U.S. COVID-19 deaths, 40% said they wouldn’t get a vaccine in a mid-May poll by the Associated Press and the University of Chicago. In France, 26% said they wouldn’t get a coronavirus vaccine.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is now working on a plan to boost “vaccine confidence” as part of the federal effort to develop a vaccine, Director Robert Redfield told a Senate committee this week. Advocates urge campaigns that include personal messages and storytelling.
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The Democrat Plan
Try proving they work. There is no such thing as a corona virus vaccination and there won’t be in our lifetime. The common cold takes one form as a cornavirus, no vaccine for it yet either.
All this talk about a vaccination is just more BS communist control. They constantly make claims like “We can’t open until there is a vaccine.” “When there’s a vaccine we can...”
They’re just gaslighting the feeble minded sheeple into doing anything the communist dictators demand by claiming once a vaccine is in place they’ll stop.
BS.
Not. At. Gunpoint.
I think there is also a lot of fear and concern about the line between a company's meddling in your personal business. Beyond drug tests and maybe a background check, few of us have ever had to produce anything else, let alone immunization records. Employees are already peeved if their employer monitors their personal social media posts...there will be a yuge amount of pushback on company-mandated immunizations.
Masks are one thing...you can take the darn things off at home (or the second you leave the Piggly Wiggly). Forced injection of an unproven serum into your body is not a line corporations want to even consider. As for politicians, I doubt Republicans are in favor...and Dems...well...I don't think they want to try to convince blacks that Tuskegee can't happen again - those protests will make George Floyd look like a lightning bug and they can't count on the white liberal kids to stand with them because these college-educated Caucasians will WANT forced vaccinations.
The problem is: If I already have had Covid 19 and have some kind of immunity, I probably don’t need a vaccine, certainly this year. As for Covid 20 or Covid 21 they change the formulation. Getting loaded up with vaccinations is probably not a good idea without a reason. So far I am not convinced this is worse than a medium flu season...with the conflation of died of and died with. I am sure that is why people with a college education have a tough time getting good jobs. “Grass eaters” is the term I like.
DK
You can not compare Smallpox with the the Flu.
You are a classic example of the problem faced by public health in trying to distribute a COVID-19 vaccine to the general population. Similar comments are all over this discussion board and elsewhere on social media.
As I have previously said, feel free if you don’t want to take it. Thus, there is no suppression of free speech by me.
My point is public health really dropped the ball and allowed folks, probably like you, to take advantage of providing an anti vaccine message and, as a result, it is going to create an issue when trying to resolve COVID-19.
Happy birthday, Kaslin, in case I forget!
Utter nonsense.
1) The National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program does compensate anyone who is injured by a vaccine. In fact, they compensate everyone who can even make a reasonable CLAIM that they’ve been harmed. You don’t have to prove anything. And yet, they pay out one claim per million vaccines given. So your chances of having any injury are somewhat less than one in a million.
2) The industry is immune from lawsuits because in the 1980s, anti-vaxxers nearly ran all vaccine makers out of business with lawsuits about fantasy injuries proven to be completely without merit. So rather than losing all vaccines in the US, Congress stepped in between the two parties. The industry is still heavily regulated.
4) Hugh Blair of Borgue was a well documented case of a person with all the classic symptoms of autism. Symptoms were highly detailed in a 1747 court case. Plenty of people had autism throughout history, even before we had an actual diagnosis. Now that there’s more awareness of it, it gets diagnosed more regularly (possibly overdiagnosed now). If you’re suggesting a link between autism and vaccines, that’s been laughed out of court rooms for decades. It used to get pinned on the MMR vaccines, except now we can diagnose autism before the usual age the MMR vaccine is given. So now that bar gets moved elsewhere.
5) They’re usually just mandated if you want your kids going to school with other kids. Because nobody wants kids with deadly, preventable diseases roaming around their kids.
6) Yes, because of persistent measles outbreaks due to breaks in herd immunity thanks to anti-science anti-vaxxers.
Yes, I have heard something about measles lately. From January 1 to December 31, 2019, 1,282 individual cases of measles were confirmed in 31 states. Of these cases, 128 were hospitalized and 61 reported having complications, including pneumonia and encephalitis.
Measles has the added bonus that it kills Memory B-cells, which effectively erases the immune system of otherwise healthy people. That leaves them susceptible to all the infections they’ve already gone through and renders any immunity they might have had before useless.
Never be the first to drive on a new bridge. Never be the first to get a new vaccine. I’m a hard pass for a while. (Gen X and proud!)
No way.
The statement was made that viruses weaken and disappear on their own. Smallpox is a virus. It did not weaken on its own. It did not disappear on its own. It killed hundreds of millions of people around the world for thousands of years. The point stands.
Nope, you are not going to”win me over”.
I,too, loved the part about Paul.
I only wear a mask at work because I'm required to. Otherwise, I keep one in my pocket in case I go somewhere with a mask bouncer.
If they require me to get vaccinated to work here I will find a new job.
But, knowing Commiefornia, that might become a requirement everywhere. I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.
I'm 59 so I'm on the cusp of the danger zone. I've had a good life and know where I'm going when I'm done here so I don't worry about that.
Yes, I'm concerned about Mrs. Eagle's health so I take it all into consideration.
I don’t follow. What is surprising?
Smallpox is not a corona virus.
It’s a different virus.
Show us an effective corona virus family vaccine and you might have a case.
I’ll wait.
Boomers remember what polio and smallpox were like before the vaccines for them. They’re (mostly) quite thankful for vaccines and all they’ve done to keep them and their kids and grandkids safe. I will never understand the backlash against the modern medical marvels that save millions of lives every year.
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